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Who is the most astute rider?
Oscar "my back hurts" Freire
56%
 56%  [ 25 ]
Eric "record 9 GT points jerseys" Zabel
43%
 43%  [ 19 ]
Total Votes : 44

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:13 am    Post subject: Who's the most astute rider? Reply with quote

Urgent need to settle a hot debate...

Roy Gardiner wrote:
Billy Boy wrote:
Roy Gardiner wrote:
Billy Boy wrote:
Des wrote:
It would be great if he could make it four, but I feel that last year was an indian summer for his career, and he is set to follow the same path as Zabel, just picking up the odd win here or there when the faster younger guys aren't ridng.
Different kind of rider to Zabel, smarter IMHO, and more capable of getting over hills.
I thought Zabel was generally thought to be a most astute rider? And as a multiple MSR winner and more significantly TdF green jersey he could climb as well as needed for a sprinter.

I like 'em both, but Friere seems to be one who can bounce back from illness/injury better than most people.
Tell me which is the most astute...

http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/96th-milano-sanremo/photos/60091
One example, that we all know about, doesn't mean Zabel was always a meathead. Would Cav credit an idiot as being the brains behind this year's MSR?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like you're losing Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its Friere by a long mile for me. Long established rider - had health problems solved em came back and wins races with panache + the obligatory dopage.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rich Hill wrote:
Its Friere by a long mile for me. Long established rider - had health problems solved em came back and wins races with panache + the obligatory dopage.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tucker wrote:
Looks like you're losing Laughing


Friere will win it with a late lunge. Wink Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Billy Boy wrote:
Tucker wrote:
Looks like you're losing Laughing


Friere will win it with a late lunge. Wink Laughing


Laughing Boll*x.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"the more"

comparative tense rather than the superlative.

(sorry)

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mig wrote:
"the more"

comparative tense rather than the superlative.

(sorry)

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Neither comparative nor superlative are tenses, they are adjectival forms

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mig wrote:
"the more"

comparative tense rather than the superlative.

(sorry)

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I think you mean comparative degree rather than the superlative. Sorry to have to out-pedant you. Very Happy

edit: Dogma got there first
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dogma Dave wrote:
mig wrote:
"the more"

comparative tense rather than the superlative.

(sorry)

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Neither comparative nor superlative are tenses, they are adjectival forms

(sorry)


do wot chief?!! Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Despite underhand attempts at sabotage, I think Oscar can claim a well deserved victory! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both good riders but if I had to go for one it would be Freire.I particularly appreciate his views on training.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Billy Boy wrote:
Despite underhand attempts at sabotage, I think Oscar can claim a well deserved victory! Very Happy


Zabel fans celebrated too soon it seems. Amazing.
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