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ColT
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 Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:00 pm Post subject: Re: Helmets again (sorry) |
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| davidmam wrote: |
As faras I am aware, teh HSE run a mile from describing a cycle helmet as PPE. With the RM it is a uniform issue. When riding a RM bike as part of your job then you have to weare the prescribed uniform. This has nothing to do with whether helmets actually do any good or not..
Whether the ruling on uniform is selective (ie would you be picked on for not wearing a uniform or punished more severely if not wearing a helmet than some other part of the uniform) is a different matter that could be more interesting to pursue. |
Just had an email from a RM safety official - he uses the term PPE quite freely and states that "The HSE actively 'encourages' Royal Mail to enforce its PPE policy."
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brakesareforwimps
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:01 pm Post subject: Re: Helmets again (sorry) |
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At work today I was told that should I be seen on my trusty Pashley, sans helmet I would be suspended on the spot.
In anticipation of the imminent court case, can anyone direct me to any relevant* links about the pros and cons of helmets.
*i.e. scientific stuff about how they are good/bad or indifferent, design specifications, etc.
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Whether helmets work or not is irrelevant. There's no legal requirement to wear one, and unless you ride your Pashley around a building site where there's a risk of things falling on your head, they have no legal health and safety obligation to insist that you wear one.
I'd ask them to send your lawyer the basis for the requirement... That should do the trick.
FWIW, I think you're daft not to wear one, but it's entirely your decision and nothing to do with your employer. |
Here here,
There's no proof they do anything and manufacturers won't guarantee they will give your head 100 p/c protection. |
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observer
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The opposing viewpoints remind me of the climate change debate. If you want to fund "research" then a much better chance if it to prove we're all doomed rather than it's just a natural thing and our contribution is minimal, but allows governmets to scare veryone (which they want to do). This is somehow equated in the helmet debate as "wear a helmet so if you fall off you won't die" "Research", which is in fact mostly marketing bolox - Mr Bell was losing moto helmet sales, so invented a helmet for another market, did the PR and bingo, everyone in on the act and actually believing WITHOUT QUESTION the spiel. The manufacturers must have been laughing their heads off between counting the cash!
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