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Billy Boy
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| Break will go without GB in it, game over. IMHO |
Doubt it, Spanish will probably work for Friere if there is any chance of a bunch sprint. Italians will work for Pettachi, US (full squad?) for Farrar, Germans for Greipel (or Cav, lot of Germans in HTC). |
Nah, none of the other teams will be riding for their sprinters because they know they'll just be riding for 2nd.
Freire has the ability to get away towards the end and bish it from a breakaway, the Spanish have a great team now though, several of them are capable of winning it.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Billy Boy wrote: |
| Nah, none of the other teams will be riding for their sprinters because they know they'll just be riding for 2nd.... |
and yet we still see several teams organising leadouts for every sprint in the TdeF. They will still fancy their chances if it looks like a sprint is going to happen. |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Nah, none of the other teams will be riding for their sprinters because they know they'll just be riding for 2nd.... |
and yet we still see several teams organising leadouts for every sprint in the TdeF. They will still fancy their chances if it looks like a sprint is going to happen. |
Lampre and Cervelo were riding for the green jersey, so that's why they wanted a sprint, Sky did a bit to try and get a result having had riders in breaks that had come back, Garmin fancied their chances with Farrar, other than that it was ones and twos to be honest.
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How big is that hill at the end (assuming they lap it)? If it's in any way selective the "puncheurs" will make the last few laps very difficult to control.
Is Boonen likely to be racing or anywhere near fitness?
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Megman wrote: |
| Billy Boy wrote: |
| Nah, none of the other teams will be riding for their sprinters because they know they'll just be riding for 2nd.... |
and yet we still see several teams organising leadouts for every sprint in the TdeF. They will still fancy their chances if it looks like a sprint is going to happen. |
Lampre and Cervelo were riding for the green jersey, so that's why they wanted a sprint, Sky did a bit to try and get a result having had riders in breaks that had come back, Garmin fancied their chances with Farrar, other than that it was ones and twos to be honest. |
So 5 whole teams, plus a few ones or twos. If I was in the break, I wouldn't fancy my chances.
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Billy Boy
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Tucker wrote: |
| Billy Boy wrote: |
| Megman wrote: |
| Billy Boy wrote: |
| Nah, none of the other teams will be riding for their sprinters because they know they'll just be riding for 2nd.... |
and yet we still see several teams organising leadouts for every sprint in the TdeF. They will still fancy their chances if it looks like a sprint is going to happen. |
Lampre and Cervelo were riding for the green jersey, so that's why they wanted a sprint, Sky did a bit to try and get a result having had riders in breaks that had come back, Garmin fancied their chances with Farrar, other than that it was ones and twos to be honest. |
So 5 whole teams, plus a few ones or twos. If I was in the break, I wouldn't fancy my chances. |
Strangely enough, neither would I, but I'm pretty sure there's no green jersey to race for at the world's.
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DenHaag
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Tucker wrote: |
| Billy Boy wrote: |
| Megman wrote: |
| Billy Boy wrote: |
| Nah, none of the other teams will be riding for their sprinters because they know they'll just be riding for 2nd.... |
and yet we still see several teams organising leadouts for every sprint in the TdeF. They will still fancy their chances if it looks like a sprint is going to happen. |
Lampre and Cervelo were riding for the green jersey, so that's why they wanted a sprint, Sky did a bit to try and get a result having had riders in breaks that had come back, Garmin fancied their chances with Farrar, other than that it was ones and twos to be honest. |
So 5 whole teams, plus a few ones or twos. If I was in the break, I wouldn't fancy my chances. |
Nah neither would I. |
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Tucker
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Billy Boy wrote: |
| Tucker wrote: |
| Billy Boy wrote: |
| Megman wrote: |
| Billy Boy wrote: |
| Nah, none of the other teams will be riding for their sprinters because they know they'll just be riding for 2nd.... |
and yet we still see several teams organising leadouts for every sprint in the TdeF. They will still fancy their chances if it looks like a sprint is going to happen. |
Lampre and Cervelo were riding for the green jersey, so that's why they wanted a sprint, Sky did a bit to try and get a result having had riders in breaks that had come back, Garmin fancied their chances with Farrar, other than that it was ones and twos to be honest. |
So 5 whole teams, plus a few ones or twos. If I was in the break, I wouldn't fancy my chances. |
Strangely enough, neither would I, but I'm pretty sure there's no green jersey to race for at the world's. |
Well butter my ar$e, I've just checked and you're right.
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Billy Boy
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Tucker wrote: |
| Billy Boy wrote: |
| Tucker wrote: |
| Billy Boy wrote: |
| Megman wrote: |
| Billy Boy wrote: |
| Nah, none of the other teams will be riding for their sprinters because they know they'll just be riding for 2nd.... |
and yet we still see several teams organising leadouts for every sprint in the TdeF. They will still fancy their chances if it looks like a sprint is going to happen. |
Lampre and Cervelo were riding for the green jersey, so that's why they wanted a sprint, Sky did a bit to try and get a result having had riders in breaks that had come back, Garmin fancied their chances with Farrar, other than that it was ones and twos to be honest. |
So 5 whole teams, plus a few ones or twos. If I was in the break, I wouldn't fancy my chances. |
Strangely enough, neither would I, but I'm pretty sure there's no green jersey to race for at the world's. |
Well butter my ar$e, I've just checked and you're right. |
Will Lurpak suffice?
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DenHaag
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Billy Boy wrote: |
| Tucker wrote: |
| Billy Boy wrote: |
| Tucker wrote: |
| Billy Boy wrote: |
| Megman wrote: |
| Billy Boy wrote: |
| Nah, none of the other teams will be riding for their sprinters because they know they'll just be riding for 2nd.... |
and yet we still see several teams organising leadouts for every sprint in the TdeF. They will still fancy their chances if it looks like a sprint is going to happen. |
Lampre and Cervelo were riding for the green jersey, so that's why they wanted a sprint, Sky did a bit to try and get a result having had riders in breaks that had come back, Garmin fancied their chances with Farrar, other than that it was ones and twos to be honest. |
So 5 whole teams, plus a few ones or twos. If I was in the break, I wouldn't fancy my chances. |
Strangely enough, neither would I, but I'm pretty sure there's no green jersey to race for at the world's. |
Well butter my ar$e, I've just checked and you're right. |
Will Lurpak suffice? |
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Look at this years worlds as a dress rehearsal for next year. For the first time in many many years we have a realistic chance of success - definitely worth riding for. Next year we have an even better chance so a dress rehearsal this year would be a good learning opportunity.
What we do need is to get into the top ten nations so we get a full team for 2011.
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hardcheese
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| Anyone going to see it? It'll be the first I'll have missed in ages. but I can't tempt any of my usual suspects to go that far. |
I'll be there! 
It is quite a long way though. About a 2 hour drive I think
Couple of spare spots in the Bongo.
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Couple of spare spots in the Bongo. |
Prison slang...? |
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Birillo
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Spanish will probably work for Friere if there is any chance of a bunch sprint. Italians will work for Pettachi, US (full squad?) for Farrar, Germans for Greipel (or Cav, lot of Germans in HTC). |
Why would any team (other than GB) work to reel in the break only to see Cav beat their man in the sprint? |
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Joursans
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Spanish will probably work for Friere if there is any chance of a bunch sprint. Italians will work for Pettachi, US (full squad?) for Farrar, Germans for Greipel (or Cav, lot of Germans in HTC). |
Why would any team (other than GB) work to reel in the break only to see Cav beat their man in the sprint? |
Because (a) they missed the break and (b) they reckon Cav will get dropped on the last time up that hill by which time the other British team members will be too frazzled to bring him back to front on/after the descent? 
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Billy Boy
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Spanish will probably work for Friere if there is any chance of a bunch sprint. Italians will work for Pettachi, US (full squad?) for Farrar, Germans for Greipel (or Cav, lot of Germans in HTC). |
Why would any team (other than GB) work to reel in the break only to see Cav beat their man in the sprint? |
Because (a) they missed the break and (b) they reckon Cav will get dropped on the last time up that hill by which time the other British team members will be too frazzled to bring him back to front on/after the descent? |
And how likely is it that the either of arguably the strongest teams (Spain and Italy) would miss the break ?
Anyway, this is good -
http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/2010/01/2010-world-championship-course-geelong-australia/
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Tucker wrote: |
| Billy Boy wrote: |
| Tucker wrote: |
| Billy Boy wrote: |
| Megman wrote: |
| Billy Boy wrote: |
| Nah, none of the other teams will be riding for their sprinters because they know they'll just be riding for 2nd.... |
and yet we still see several teams organising leadouts for every sprint in the TdeF. They will still fancy their chances if it looks like a sprint is going to happen. |
Lampre and Cervelo were riding for the green jersey, so that's why they wanted a sprint, Sky did a bit to try and get a result having had riders in breaks that had come back, Garmin fancied their chances with Farrar, other than that it was ones and twos to be honest. |
So 5 whole teams, plus a few ones or twos. If I was in the break, I wouldn't fancy my chances. |
Strangely enough, neither would I, but I'm pretty sure there's no green jersey to race for at the world's. |
Well butter my ar$e, I've just checked and you're right. |
What about the Irish strip?
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Break will go without GB in it, game over. IMHO |
Doubt it, Spanish will probably work for Friere if there is any chance of a bunch sprint. Italians will work for Pettachi, US (full squad?) for Farrar, Germans for Greipel (or Cav, lot of Germans in HTC). |
He wont be there. |
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Steve McGinty
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That's *not* a flat circuit...
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| Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:17 am Post subject: |
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That's *not* a flat circuit... |
Neither is Milan - San Remo
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