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AndyB
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This kind of comment annoys me.
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| Bob Howden, British Cycling’s Chair of Anti-Doping Commission, said in a statement: “We are naturally disappointed that a cyclist has been found guilty of doping, however, this case shows that the comprehensive testing programme which operates at all levels of the sport is delivering results." |
He was on the juice for ages and you only tested him based on a tip off and even then you allowed him to ride in a race before the test. Yeah, comprehensive my ar53.
Look British Cycling, there are a few of us in the sport that get the word up front before you announce it. THis case is one of those. for gods sake, speed the whole process up AND like other sports organisations, announce it from the very off-set. IF they are found not guilty then a "non-positive" announcement can be followed up, but you know what - holding on to this along with UKAD for such a long time, your members have lost a little bit more faith in you! |
It annoys me that people like you do not allow due process to conclude before spliing the beans. The entire process from testing to hearing and announcement of the results is enirely down to UKAD. BC have to follow their lead. They have acted correctly in all aspects of this. That other sports announce things early/earlier does NOT make it the correct or better way.
But I do agree that the length of time to do the process is too long - this could have been all done and settled before the end of May.
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bull-whatsit. This pr!ck admitted to doing it to friends and by telling the UKAD team to not bother him is also an admission. So from the day he admitted it and also sent the email, it should have been released.
This was dealt with and signed off by UKAD in June, why wasnt it released the day after ?
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mho
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| Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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This was dealt with and signed off by UKAD in June, why wasnt it released the day after ? oh yeah, build up to the TdF with Team Sky - bad publicity |
So what - he's been banned, the date of the ban is fixed. The news was released on a 'bad news' day - great. We are forever moaning we take the wrap for having a clean sport well here it might have been managed so the good news story took presidence. We got to promote the sport when it matters and now we can move on.
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billyam998
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Dan Staite(oakahm ) is a nice lad we grew up together, he is naturally strong lad we used to do a lot of miles together,i think we should let him have privacy.
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Nice post Darren and well intended I feel as someone who actually knew him but, I have to ask when was the last time you saw/spoke to him?
Dan could have come out of this a whole lot better if he had co-operated a little more with the authorities, some may feel the late release of the anouncement was to protect varous interests in the TDF, others see it as following a long drawn out process. Whatever the reason thanks to forums like ours the speculation and anon pms have been flying around for months. I am only a 4th cat novice vet chipper but, I know if i'd worked my opps off in a break where this berk was ripping it up and basically killing any chance of myself doing well I'd be pretty peeeeed off.
Looking at what has been said on other forums I think our revulsion for him is pretty tame.
 - damn right no ones going to talk to him for years.
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shockedsoshocked
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| Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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On a more positive note...
Thank god he never pulled a GB jersey on. |
It's alright, he would have only been pulled from competition under claims it was some kind of anomaly no doubt. Then dropped like hot sh!t.
To be honest I'm surprised this type of thing isn't more widespread. The tackle is relatively cheap (according to a team mate who races in Belgium regularly it's fairly cheap over the counter nowadays?) and someone only needs a basic understanding of how to administer it. All you'd have to do is find a willing physiologist or someone with a bit of medical knowledge and away you go. If people have enough disposable income to buy a 5k bike every season no doubt they could afford to dabble. |
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Doozer
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| Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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| If people have enough disposable income to buy a 5k bike every season no doubt they could afford to dabble. |
dunno, after bike stuff booze and women I've not got a lot left over. at least Staite can fully invest in the latter 2 items now.
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uber pea
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I remember Dan getting top fives in Premier Calendar races as far back as '98. Havant GP and Tour of the Kingdom spring to mind.
Seem also to remember that he was a mileage monster with the training |
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Rob muzio
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This is a crazy story!!
This dude has been floating around amateur sport for the last 10 years or so cycling and rowing while juicing up !!
It's really quite sad that, for him to be content, he had to risk his life (possibly self injecting EPO, its side effects etc.)
no sympathy whatsoever given his attitude after being stung.... Je should be laughed at as punishment
I don't see problems with the system: it comes down to the fact that it's amateur sport and so juicing up is less likely to occur...
UKADA or BC???? have an anonymous number that rats  can call don't they??
Rat more out so we can laugh at them!! |
I've got to say I did!! :l |
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mschole
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| Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Alternatively: it's come out that he used epo in a chipper race, everyone in chipper cycling is laughing their tits off at him, he's going to feel a p!llock at every race he turns up for ever again and know that everyone else in the changing rooms thinks he's a tosseur, anytime he even finishes in the bunch from now on people will assume it's because he's charged up (and will tell him so) - since we're all doing this for fun, is any further punishment really needed? |
Yep, from the looks of his post on the ergo forum, what his peers think will really hold him back from competing again. They slagged him in a thread and he replies:
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| Keep up the good work. All this is the perfect ammunition for my return. |
http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=21213&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=45#p523448
No remorse, no apology, hardcore doping... lifetime ban is too good for him. |
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leghurty
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Not putting a full stop at the end of a sentence is a mistake.
Taking EPO and other shit requires quite a lot of forward thinking and research and advice in my opinion. |
Too right! This is the bit I find so repulsive. |
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one man army
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| Keep up the good work. All this is the perfect ammunition for my return. |
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mho
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| Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Keep up the good work. All this is the perfect ammunition for my return. |
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Entries to road races are at the organisers discretion, hopefully he won't get the opportunity.
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