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Pierre Head
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Location: Albert Dock
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| i dont think its gonna set me back weeks as its only about 900metres |
Pack the season in now and recover. There's plenty of time before next season.
I'm not advising you here, I'm telling you. Don't even go near the Rake unless you are in tip-top condition. I used to live near there and have been up it hundreds of times. It not only hurts your legs with lactic, it tears your lungs to pieces as well. |
whatever iv got it doesnt show many signs of leaving but if i stop training im just going to get less and less fit. but i aint going to do the nat HC. i think that 'the rake' is a bit overrated tho. what is its average gradient? i ride a lot in mid wales and there quite a few 900 metre hills up tiny lanes to farms n stuff there that are 20% average. what makes it so special? :S |
Cobbles, oxygen cylinders everwhere, and so called climbers and trackmen having their Dugast tubs shredded by the flints between the cobbles. I know how to ride it, and with what tyres and pressures. Go a few days early and suss it out. If you are on the meat 2.45 might get you somewhere.
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Matt Clinton
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Location: rarely logging in.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:32 am Post subject: |
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| Pierre Head wrote: |
| jk_bike wrote: |
| Pierre Head wrote: |
| jk_bike wrote: |
| i dont think its gonna set me back weeks as its only about 900metres |
Pack the season in now and recover. There's plenty of time before next season.
I'm not advising you here, I'm telling you. Don't even go near the Rake unless you are in tip-top condition. I used to live near there and have been up it hundreds of times. It not only hurts your legs with lactic, it tears your lungs to pieces as well. |
whatever iv got it doesnt show many signs of leaving but if i stop training im just going to get less and less fit. but i aint going to do the nat HC. i think that 'the rake' is a bit overrated tho. what is its average gradient? i ride a lot in mid wales and there quite a few 900 metre hills up tiny lanes to farms n stuff there that are 20% average. what makes it so special? :S |
Cobbles, oxygen cylinders everwhere, and so called climbers and trackmen having their Dugast tubs shredded by the flints between the cobbles. I know how to ride it, and with what tyres and pressures. Go a few days early and suss it out. If you are on the meat 2.45 might get you somewhere. |
Is a few hours ok? I dont really have time between now and Sunday to check it out! 
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BigRobJef
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Joined: 26 Aug 2003
Posts: 1755
Location: Dorset
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:51 am Post subject: |
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cakeathon
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Joined: 26 Jun 2004
Posts: 525
Location: Bristol, Alveston
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:22 am Post subject: |
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yer ride it, stop being soft.
A good hacking cough, sore throat, and aching joints are a sign that youre coming into some good form.
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Pierre Head
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Joined: 06 Apr 2005
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Location: Albert Dock
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Matclinton wrote: |
| Pierre Head wrote: |
| jk_bike wrote: |
| Pierre Head wrote: |
| jk_bike wrote: |
| i dont think its gonna set me back weeks as its only about 900metres |
Pack the season in now and recover. There's plenty of time before next season.
I'm not advising you here, I'm telling you. Don't even go near the Rake unless you are in tip-top condition. I used to live near there and have been up it hundreds of times. It not only hurts your legs with lactic, it tears your lungs to pieces as well. |
whatever iv got it doesnt show many signs of leaving but if i stop training im just going to get less and less fit. but i aint going to do the nat HC. i think that 'the rake' is a bit overrated tho. what is its average gradient? i ride a lot in mid wales and there quite a few 900 metre hills up tiny lanes to farms n stuff there that are 20% average. what makes it so special? :S |
Cobbles, oxygen cylinders everwhere, and so called climbers and trackmen having their Dugast tubs shredded by the flints between the cobbles. I know how to ride it, and with what tyres and pressures. Go a few days early and suss it out. If you are on the meat 2.45 might get you somewhere. |
Is a few hours ok? I dont really have time between now and Sunday to check it out! |
The only reason you might go early is to book a table in the Pub.
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hellosunshine
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Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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give it a go!
i am...broke me arm and collar bone 8 weeks ago and still cant put me elbow in me ear.......thought the rake might kill or cure.ignorance is bliss |
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Gary K
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Joined: 27 Feb 2002
Posts: 7115
Location: Toowoomba, Queensland, in Sunny Australia!!!
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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JK - if you are asking on here then there is enough doubt in your mind telling you not to ride.
Riding something like this isn't a walk in the park.
The crowds are enormous and closed right in on you as it is quite narrow and high sided on the right, from what I remember.
You'll not ride it easy. You'll get carried away, like everyone else, and go 100% eyeballs out.
You'll do more damage than good, trust me.
The last National on it, I rode and needed oxygen at the top to stop me passing out and I came only half way up the field but still gave it 100%!!!  |
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bissell
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Joined: 30 Aug 2003
Posts: 499
Location: stevenage
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 9:33 am Post subject: |
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| hellosunshine wrote: |
give it a go!
i am...broke me arm and collar bone 8 weeks ago and still cant put me elbow in me ear.......thought the rake might kill or cure.ignorance is bliss |
blimey ive never broke my collarbone and still cant put me elbow in me ear dont think im gonna ride now  |
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Coggy
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:37 am Post subject: |
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I drove to Ramsbottom to walk up the rake once. It isn't as steep as some hills, but is relentless from start to finish. As you are light and strong you should do well, you will have an excellent power-to-weight ratio. But if you have, or recently had, a viral infection, don't ride it.
(btw I voted for you to ride before I read about your illness). |
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skinnylegs05
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Joined: 04 Mar 2005
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Location: north east
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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i agree... its relentless until you hit the flat bit in the middle  |
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TW@
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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As its Jack - douse yourself in cold water, then ride it. And start smoking. Do it.
Haven't seen you down the West Bromwich LAGS for a while, have you gone off us? |
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Rich Hill
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Joined: 15 Aug 2002
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Location: Coventry
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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Great ride in Belgium.... but I think you would be one dumb boy to ride the National HC...
HC's are one of the most intensive events you can ride - doing so ill is not going to make you ANY better...
Insist on getting to the bottom of what is wrong -however frustrating you find it... get another opinion - research it yourself (use t'internet for reference)
Get that sorted first and worry about a poxy HC for the future - when you are well..
Thrillster.
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duffy
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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probably not worth it and from personal experience its so fine cut to perform 100 - 95%
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PNuT
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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WBLAGS say Go Jack  |
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legro
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....... GO GO go go go slowing slowing stop
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Matt Clinton
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