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chrisd
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 Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 12:40 am Post subject: Will an American finish on the podium in the Tour? |
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well, what do you think?
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Le Rolleur
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It will be Hincapie if it happens. Haven't been analysing his form though... might take a butchers at his website 
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mho
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| Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 8:50 am Post subject: |
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Llandis is the best bet.
Valverde - completely unproven - has he actually finished a grand tour yet? |
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hunterbark
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| Hincapie looks like he's a skeleton now, I read somewhere he's lost between 6 and 10 kilo's! If that's true, he should be able to get up the hors categories near the leading group, he can TT almost as fast as LA too. Discovery also need an american as team leader in the tour, it's the only race the US audience knows about, so I might check out the early betting on him for a podium, as long as he gets himself a proper set of forks. |
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Ivan
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| Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 11:04 am Post subject: |
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| Landis and Leipheimer are the best bets with Hincapie an unknown quantity as a GC rider. |
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Matteo
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Valverde - completely unproven - has he actually finished a grand tour yet? |
Yes. 3rd in Vuelta 2003, 4th in 2004.
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hunterbark
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| Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 11:49 am Post subject: |
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Valverde - completely unproven - has he actually finished a grand tour yet? |
Yes. 3rd in Vuelta 2003, 4th in 2004. |
1998 Vuelta results.
Final General Classification
1. Abraham Olano Manzano (Spa) Banesto 93.44.08
2. Fernando Escartin (Spa) Kelme-Costa Blanca 1.23
3. José Maria Jiminez Sastre (Spa) Banesto 2.12
4. Lance Armstrong (USA) US Postal 2.18 5. Laurent Jalabert (Fra) ONCE-Deutsche Bank 2.37
6. Roberto Heras Hernandez (Spa) Kelme-Costa Blanca 2.58
7. Alvaro Gonzalez Galdeano (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 5.51
8. Alex Zülle (Fra) Festina-Lotus 6.05
9. Marco Serpellini (Ita) Brescialat-Liquigas 8.58
10. Marcos Serrano (Spa) Kelme-Costa Blanca 10.17 |
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Tom Butcher
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| Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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Can't see it - Landis looks like the most likely but got to be honest and say I haven't been following his form - on previous years I reckon he'll be just short.
Is Hincapie back riding after his crash yet ? |
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mho
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| Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Matteo wrote: |
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Valverde - completely unproven - has he actually finished a grand tour yet? |
Yes. 3rd in Vuelta 2003, 4th in 2004. |
Oops - I stand corrected. My feeling is that he was fairly annonymous is both though.
As for quoting Lance's 4th place as precedent. i'd say but the man rode with no racing background that year having just come back from a life threatening illness. Besides I could point to the fact that in the Veulta, Valverde's record is getting worse not better!
He is a great talent but all those who have beaten him at the Veulta have finished well down in the tour in that same year. I just don't see Valverde stepping straight out and winning it. |
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Big-C
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| Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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Can't see it - Landis looks like the most likely but got to be honest and say I haven't been following his form - on previous years I reckon he'll be just short.
Is Hincapie back riding after his crash yet ? |
he was back doing 5 hrs aday within a week
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Big-C
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| Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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It will be Hincapie if it happens. Haven't been analysing his form though... might take a butchers at his website
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Basso
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what goes against valverde/leipheimer/any othe climber is 100km of flat time trials ....
and no particularly hard mountain stages.
it's gonna be a big guy who wins this year
Jan
Floyd
George
Ivan
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*CENSORED* even VRs favourite DM would be in with a chance if he'd had more racing miles in his legs
but my money is on landis. a nice 20-1 at the bookies I got .... 
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GZA
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If will be stunned if Hincapie gets anyway near the podium!
Landis is looking really good, knows how to handle race leadership and his team really believe in him.
I would dearly love Valverde to win, but I think it's slightly too early and too easy for him, worth a look though.
If Ulrich caries on improving he will win, not enough opportunities for Basso to stitch him up... |
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joxster
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The only american that will get near the podium will be Lance, and he'll be handing out the prizes.
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Le Rolleur
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| Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Big-C wrote: |
| Le Rolleur wrote: |
It will be Hincapie if it happens. Haven't been analysing his form though... might take a butchers at his website
Ullrich
Basso
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what goes against valverde/leipheimer/any othe climber is 100km of flat time trials ....
and no particularly hard mountain stages.
it's gonna be a big guy who wins this year
Jan
Floyd
George
Ivan
etc
*CENSORED* even VRs favourite DM would be in with a chance if he'd had more racing miles in his legs
but my money is on landis. a nice 20-1 at the bookies I got .... |
True!
The reason I was thinking of Valverde was off the back of him being stronger than a strong Armstrong on that first proper mountain stage last year, before he was forced to abandon.
You're all correct, I also suspect Landis and Hincapie will be sniffing the podium due to the TTs.
Going to be an interesting Tour de France, I can't wait.
Us Ullrich fans will rejoice in a masterclass though 
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