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climbingwizzkid
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he's still the best ever rider in the world that as ever lived!!!!!!!!
RIP Pantani  |
er no he's not, but let's not let this thread degenerate into another dr g thread |
Yeh Pantani,
Managed to upset both Indurain and Armstrong - one because he wouldn't gift him a stage that he hadn't worked for, and the other because he did  |
therefore legend!!!!!!!!!!! you got to love the guy!!!!!!! |
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Des
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No I despise him and everthing he came to stand for 
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Richard
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yes he is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  
name one guy better then! |
Boardman for managing to have a career that was successful in one of the most dr g infested eras of our sport and coming out with his head held high
Bradley Wiggins
Bradley McGee
or do you just worship him because he's of a similar body type to yourself fred?
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climbingwizzkid
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 10:54 am Post subject: |
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| Des wrote: |
| No I despise him and everthing he came to stand for |
those to there own crap standards then  
i loved the guy seeing him and lance got me into cycling most memborly the stage up ventoux! |
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climbingwizzkid
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 10:55 am Post subject: |
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| Richard wrote: |
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yes he is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
name one guy better then! |
Boardman for managing to have a career that was successful in one of the most dr g infested eras of our sport and coming out with his head held high
Bradley Wiggins
Bradley McGee
or do you just worship him because he's of a similar body type to yourself fred? |
none of them achieved what he did plus he was that *CENSORED* up apart from on crack which wouldnt really improve performance would it?
classic climber hasn well and all time great! |
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Richard
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| classic climber hasn well and all time great! |
ok then, classic climber - Andy Hampsten - won a Giro D'Italia and a stage of the Tour on Alpe D'Huez and the best young rider jersey at the Tour and the Tour of Switzerland if memory serves me right
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climbingwizzkid
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 10:58 am Post subject: |
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| Richard wrote: |
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| classic climber hasn well and all time great! |
ok then, classic climber - Andy Hampsten - won a Giro D'Italia and a stage of the Tour on Alpe D'Huez and the best young rider jersey at the Tour and the Tour of Switzerland if memory serves me right |
still don't compare to pantani's climbing performances! |
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Richard
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| still don't compare to pantani's climbing performances! |
*sigh* ok then - Lucho Herrera lit up the Tour in the 1980's, Thierry Claveyrolat was a similar jack in the box type climber, Jose Maria Jimenez was spectacular in the Tour of Spain and if you're looking for annoying Italians who'd shoot off and irritate everyone then look no further than Claudio Chiappucci
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Des
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 11:03 am Post subject: |
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yes he is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
name one guy better then! |
Boardman for managing to have a career that was successful in one of the most dr g infested eras of our sport and coming out with his head held high
Bradley Wiggins
Bradley McGee
or do you just worship him because he's of a similar body type to yourself fred? |
none of them achieved what he did plus he was that *CENSORED* up apart from on crack which wouldnt really improve performance would it?
classic climber hasn well and all time great! |
You've never read his biograhy then which details virtually all of his blood tests and would suggest he was EPO even as a amateur. The guy also had no sense of sportsmanship. Only rider I dislike more is tricky Dicky.
For a view of how disliked Pantani is you should have joined in on the Italian club run i rode alongside out of Florance in 2000 and heard the comments made about Pantani to my mate who just happened to be riding a Bianchi.
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climbingwizzkid
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 11:04 am Post subject: |
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| still don't compare to pantani's climbing performances! |
*sigh* ok then - Lucho Herrera lit up the Tour in the 1980's, Thierry Claveyrolat was a similar jack in the box type climber, Jose Maria Jimenez was spectacular in the Tour of Spain and if you're looking for annoying Italians who'd shoot off and irritate everyone then look no further than Claudio Chiappucci |
*sigh* still not nearly has good though!!!!!!! 
just face it pantani was a legend that brought great entertanment and excitment when he flew up the hills! |
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Richard
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| still don't compare to pantani's climbing performances! |
actually, Hampsten's performance in the 1988 Tour of Italy eclipses ANYTHING that Pantani ever achieved (1st overall, King of the Mountains and 2 stage wins) especially THAT stage over the Gavia pass in the snow....
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No Pantani was a cheating lying little *CENSORED* addict who flew up the hills with chemical assistance.
Sorry to be a pendant
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MadCow
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No Pantani was a cheating lying little *CENSORED* addict who flew up the hills with chemical assistance.
Sorry to be a pendant |
You're not dangling at all!? Sorry
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chrisd
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i like pantani because he annoyed armstrong  . but he was a massive doper, but then again, name me 10 riders from that period who were successful and clean?
as for skinny riders, i think di luca is quite stocky which is why he always looks ill during grand tours as he has to lose so much weight.
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Ivanacarbonframe
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Just cuz he was a cheat doesn't make him any less of a legend, good or bad, legends are legends! Sure, it makes him much less of a sportsman but thats not what the discussion was about!
Back to the topic- Simoni to win today unless Di Luca has made a full recovery from yesterday!!
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Matteo
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| still don't compare to pantani's climbing performances! |
actually, Hampsten's performance in the 1988 Tour of Italy eclipses ANYTHING that Pantani ever achieved (1st overall, King of the Mountains and 2 stage wins) especially THAT stage over the Gavia pass in the snow.... |
He didn't win THAT stage, Erik Breukink did.
I should've known better than to mention Marco Pantani on veloriders.
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