TdF Coverage

Emeritus · Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2004 5:39 pm Post subject:

Roy,
To put my (now amended) reply in context (I was trying to hold a conversation at the same time and made a b@lls of it; mea culpa):
Libel laws in the UK+Ireland are very strict, hence more allegations being made in French editions than English ones, thus DW/PB can print more or less what they like (including what may be the truth!) in France with little fear of any comeback, whereas in the UK one can get sued for calling a digging implement a spade (and lose).
I heartily agree with your last two sentiments, given reasonable and credible proof of the first.
Let's face it, in today's world, where money is the only accepted currency (sic), truth and dignity are buried in Fred West's basement. I think this may be my last season as a fan of high-level sport. More joy and honesty to be had in watching the kids carreering around the local park

Robin
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Roy Gardiner · Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2004 5:44 pm Post subject:

marlboro man · Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2004 7:39 pm Post subject:

Try as they might, Phil & Paul cannont conceal their pro- Lance point of view which has been going on since the Motorola days.

Kelly's contribution to the Eurosport coverage is immense as there are few better qualified to comment on a race as it unfolds. Nine times out of ten, he's ridden the race being shown and if he's ridden it he has probably won it! On top of that, Kelly's comments are always informed and relevant.

What Eurosport really needs is a good anchor who can describe what they see in lucid English and knows when to shut up. In today's coverage, Smith talked over Kirsipuu as he was giving his post race interview a very silly and careless mistake.

Right I'm off to watch a video of 1993 European Grand Prix, commentary by Murray Walker and James Hunt. Brilliant race, brilliant commentary.
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Iffacus · Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2004 8:07 pm Post subject:

Coggy · Guest

Pinarello · Guest

Mike Smith is Paul Daniels 'is he or is he not'...... oh not just me again... Embarassed

ray stuart · E, Silver Joined: 18 Apr 2002 Posts: 1262 Location: POOLE

Best Sports commentator I've ever listened to - Sam Ermelonko. Articulate, extremely knowledgeable and still a good speedway rider.

EddieW · E, Bronze Joined: 05 Aug 2002 Posts: 276

Bring back Duffers, Mike Smith or as he would say Mike Smyeeeeeeffff,
Made more *CENSORED* today then Duffers would in a week, including talking over the winner and completly drowning out his interview. does Mr Smyeeeeeeeeeeeffff know how annoying his boring tones are?? Good job he has Kelly to dig him out Evil or Very Mad

Coggy · Guest

As I missed the dullness of the riders plodding along the roads of Belgium in favour of watching the antics of the 'On the Buses' crew in a feature length film, I must give you all the stunning fact that:
The first ever cashpoint was opened by Reg Varney in 1967.
Facts don't get better than that !

Chr!s B. · E, Silver Joined: 07 Jan 2004 Posts: 1967

Steve McGinty · Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 8:32 am Post subject:

Megman · Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 9:22 am Post subject:

Eurosport - more coverage, but I switch over to ITV2 as soon as they start as their commentary is much better. Switch back to Eurosport in the adverts.

Don't know why Eurosport have relegated to David Harmon to the "dungeons" section of their coverage. He did a great job in the Giro and is the best Eurosport commentator.

Roy Gardiner · Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 9:43 am Post subject:

marlboro man · Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 9:47 pm Post subject:

Those of you who remember James Hunt's commentary will remember his brutal honesty. Aside from criticising Riccardo Patrese to destruction, he would be critical of any minute driver error. At one point he described Phillipe Alliot as "the man who crashes out of every grand prix anyway," and although it Evil or Very Mad

me off, he would even criticise some of Senna's tactics.

Kelly is of a similar vein in that he can criticise with authority, this came through on Sunday when he spoke of Mark Scanlon's chances in this year's tour. At the same time he's very complimentary about riders who haven't achieved half of what he has.

While Roche and Kelly can make excellent contributions to Eurosport's coverage, the consensus here seems to be that Smith needs to go and be replaced by a competent anchor. Even if only to allow the viewer to hear the victor's comments, I think Eurosport would be better off!
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Learning_Slowly · Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 9:57 pm Post subject:

I havent caught any of ITV2s coverage thus far, but i have to say i quite enjoy the eurosport stuff. They seem to be enjoying watching the tour and it reflects in the commentary. I dont really see why there are so many complaints, so long as i can see whats happening with the riders i don't mind too much. I would have liked the guy David Harmon who commentated on the giro to be on it more, because i quite enjoyed his commentary.
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