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erudite pete
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| Allen bolts look neater. Track nuts work better and are easier to adjust. |
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Big-C
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The whole orignal design behind Allen Key (for Ford motor company) was they didn't allow a bolt to be over-torqued ... IIRC
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Richard Kennedy
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| FWIW I use a Zipp 950 track disc with allen key bolts. I agree that track nuts are preferable, but for general track use you'll have no problem at all with allen key bolts. |
You must be a girlie pursuiter too then Rick  |
 yeah, guess I must be.
Actually I have to be carefull with the allen key bolts. I tighten them with a VERY long allen key, and replace the bolts as soon as they start to round, but I'm a 13 stone track sprinter. For anyone looking for a general track disc a Zipp 1150 will be perfectly servicable.
There you go John, good enough advertising for you? |
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Bally
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| Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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| no, unless you're a girlie pursuiter, they don't grip too well or at least as good as track nuts |
I always thought that but now running allen keys on my disc and have had no problems with them - although I'm not putting out the same power as you on a standing start.
Mark Zaschke has used them quite a lot in the past on some of his wheels and I don't believe he's has any problems either. They are (or were) standard on Mavic track hubs. |
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PeteW
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Got them on my Goldtec track hubs, though the axles also have flats on them to mate in the dropouts, which helps with stopping rotational forces and ultimatley wheel slippage. The caps the A/K bolts sit in have a serrated surface as well.
So far never had a problem |
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pk
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| Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject: allen key skewers |
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| Where can I buy front allen key skewers from, I snapped mine at the Youth / jun track champs. |
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John McC
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Try a good bike shop!
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pk
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| Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| I have tried several 'good' bike shops, can anyone suggest a good bike shop that actually stocks them |
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John McC
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| Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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| I have tried several 'good' bike shops, can anyone suggest a good bike shop that actually stocks them |
Shorter Rochford, Potters Bar; Ciclos Uno, Hainualt.
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journo
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Is there a "boring thread of the month" award on VR..if so this one could win
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Flabio Chubbolinni
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Udo Bolts was so impressed with them he changed his name from Alan Keyes by D Pole.
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scotsbigfella
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| Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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nuts are preferable, i have used both zipp and mavic 3g's with allen keys and not had a problem, they are adequate and unlike my skinny brother i am 16 stone and used to have a quicker start than him! lol
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Bally
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| Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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| I have tried several 'good' bike shops, can anyone suggest a good bike shop that actually stocks them |
Bought my TransX ones from Halfords! |
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Richard Kennedy
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| Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| scotsbigfella wrote: |
| nuts are preferable, i have used both zipp and mavic 3g's with allen keys and not had a problem, they are adequate and unlike my skinny brother i am 16 stone and used to have a quicker start than him! lol |
as if you cheeky barsteward! |
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legro
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| Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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oooooooh a family tiff
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monk
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| Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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| oooooooh a family tiff |
never seen a tiff on vr before ....
how unique |
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Richard Kennedy
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| Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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| monk wrote: |
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| oooooooh a family tiff |
never seen a tiff on vr before ....
how unique |
come off it Monk, you've got a younger brother too. You must know that a real tiff looks much worse than this!! |
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elaina
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| Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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| monk wrote: |
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| oooooooh a family tiff |
never seen a tiff on vr before ....
how unique |
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legro
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arghhhhhhhhhhhh
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