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Matt Clinton
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| Oh and the gap you told me to fill Rich, you didnt tell me how fast to go across, it wasn't really that big (10m?), if you'd have said I'd have towed you across.... |
Sheesh kebab - do I have to instruct you like a robot.. .next time you along side an over weight 30 something sweating and panting like a water phobist during the monsoon - give it some thought....
And as for the gap - size is irrelevant now- you let it appear!
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And you didn't fill it! 
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Rich Hill
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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| And you didn't fill it! |
Bit of a no brainer huh Clinton?
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Rich Hill
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Question ?
What has bike cost got to do with anything ?
You still gotta pedal it and there isn't that much difference in the modern world between your Specialized and a C40
A couple of KG in bike weight ain't gonna make that much difference .... |
Certainly not a 30 mile bash route.....
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Matt Clinton
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I'll bring the race bike out next time then.
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Steve D-T
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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Blah blah blah . . . .
Instead of riding the local bash, just go bash the local ride instead. |
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Big-C
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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Question ?
What has bike cost got to do with anything ?
You still gotta pedal it and there isn't that much difference in the modern world between your Specialized and a C40
A couple of KG in bike weight ain't gonna make that much difference .... |
Certainly not a 30 mile bash route..... |
It must be a northern thing, cos people down here in the 'Midlands' (i.e. Hemel Hempstead/MK area) just go out and ride. No one moans about people being on 'best' bike (whatever that is)
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Bob J
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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Some years ago there used to be a young guy who always ripped things up a bit too much on the chaingang and hence wasn't too popular. I had a chat with him one night on the way home after the bash. I suggested that he did his full out stuff on his own before the bash, something like 1 min on, 1 min off for 15 / 20 mins, then join the bash and ride smooth and cruise like TTT effort. Worked for us, he was ok after that. Only a suggestion 
Save your aggression for the races. 
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Rich Hill
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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Some years ago there used to be a young guy who always ripped things up a bit too much on the chaingang and hence wasn't too popular. I had a chat with him one night on the way home after the bash. I suggested that he did his full out stuff on his own before the bash, something like 1 min on, 1 min off for 15 / 20 mins, then join the bash and ride smooth and cruise like TTT effort. Worked for us, he was ok after that. Only a suggestion
Save your aggression for the races. |
Sound advice there Bob.....
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Adam
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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Think it's a bit harsh slaughtering Matt publically here, I hate to admit it; but he's a mate of mine. I've never heard of anyone having a go at him on bashes before last year, the only place where I'd witnessed someone having a go is when someone from the Wheeler's attacked at a junction? (I mean, wtf?).
Me, Matt and another chap went off the front one time on the bash last year, we got away and had a good gap and stayed away for 4-5 miles with them chasing. When we finished we were applauded, 'Nice one guys! etc etc' - If I would have travelled 10 miles up the road to the other bash that goes on, I would have been shouted at. There's a difference I guess in expectations,
When Matt attacked last year, often 'Up the wall' or on some of the bigger climbs he tried to stay away as long as he could and it was up to us to work together and chase him down, bloody good training if you ask me.
Now, Rich I know you weren't in any position to go through and off because you're not fit at the moment, but if your going to get dropped, you are going to get dropped. My Dad didn't moan that anyone was dropping back and leaving gaps, because he accepts he's not fit enough to stay on and just thinks 'Well, a few of these I can stay on and do OK'
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Rich Hill
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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Think it's a bit harsh slaughtering Matt publically here, I hate to admit it; but he's a mate of mine. I've never heard of anyone having a go at him on bashes before last year, the only place where I'd witnessed someone having a go is when someone from the Wheeler's attacked at a junction? (I mean, wtf?).
Me, Matt and another chap went off the front one time on the bash last year, we got away and had a good gap and stayed away for 4-5 miles with them chasing. When we finished we were applauded, 'Nice one guys! etc etc' - If I would have travelled 10 miles up the road to the other bash that goes on, I would have been shouted at. There's a difference I guess in expectations,
When Matt attacked last year, often 'Up the wall' or on some of the bigger climbs he tried to stay away as long as he could and it was up to us to work together and chase him down, bloody good training if you ask me.
Now, Rich I know you weren't in any position to go through and off because you're not fit at the moment, but if your going to get dropped, you are going to get dropped. My Dad didn't moan that anyone was dropping back and leaving gaps, because he accepts he's not fit enough to stay on and just thinks 'Well, a few of these I can stay on and do OK' |
Part of this is in jest Ad and part of it is a note to Clinton just to manage his power a little better. I am pretty sure he didn't do it out of malice and was just showing off - I am fine with that (well nearly...!). I think if you were in a similar situation you would have found it quite disconcerting.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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Where is this bash? I may come out on it and then Rich will not be on his own off the back!  |
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Adam
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Coventry Bash - Tuesday - "6.30 from Rubicon *CENSORED* on A45 every Tuesday night until clocks go back, route changes dependant on light conditions but there's only 2 variants, short one for short nights and the longer version." - They come past the traffic lights by yours guy at around 6.42pm 
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Matt Clinton
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Ummm.... my managing of power on Tues - I'd done 3.5hrs by this time already, at a fairly good power level; the reason why I was dropping back was becuase I couldn't hold the power that was needed to stay up near the front.
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Matt Clinton
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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Guy- me and Trant are meeting at 6.35 by the scout hut if you want to come on the Warwick one.
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Rich Hill
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Ummm.... my managing of power on Tues - I'd done 3.5hrs by this time already, at a fairly good power level; the reason why I was dropping back was becuase I couldn't hold the power that was needed to stay up near the front. |
I can't be the only one thats bored to tears with this now?????
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Ummm.... my managing of power on Tues - I'd done 3.5hrs by this time already, at a fairly good power level; the reason why I was dropping back was becuase I couldn't hold the power that was needed to stay up near the front. |
sooo basically you were fooked?  |
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Richard
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Ummm.... my managing of power on Tues - I'd done 3.5hrs by this time already, at a fairly good power level; the reason why I was dropping back was becuase I couldn't hold the power that was needed to stay up near the front. |
I can't be the only one thats bored to tears with this now????? |
you started it
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