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Does anyone truly believe that most (>95%) pros are clean

 
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Yes
16%
 16%  [ 8 ]
No
83%
 83%  [ 40 ]
Total Votes : 48

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Tucker
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:02 pm    Post subject: Does anyone truly believe that most (>95%) pros are clean Reply with quote

Discuss. IYCBA, obviously... (copyright Tony Bell)
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IYCBA? I'm obviously not with the program...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

58 becomes 107 implicated riders?

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/may07/may01news2
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mho wrote:
IYCBA? I'm obviously not with the program...


If You Can Be A r s e d
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mho wrote:
58 becomes 107 implicated riders?

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/may07/may01news2


at least the bionic lemon's clean eh ?
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MH
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see that 4 people have voted 'yes' so far. I presume this is either a joke or an attempt to even up the poll!!!

5% might be clean...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MH wrote:
I see that 4 people have voted 'yes' so far.[/b] I presume this is either a joke or an attempt to even up the poll!!!

5% might be clean...


I think Tyler Hamilton, Bjarne Riis, Lance Armstrong and Frank Vandenbroucke must have signed in somehow.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nope no joke i think the 95 % are clean and the 5 % is what is ruinng the sport
we need life bans for any *CENSORED* and the maybe the 95 % will become the 100%
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not sure who is clean and who isn't. But I am relieved that some pro teams are being run by people such as Riis, Museuuw and Kim Andersen just to name a few. We know the future is good with managers like that. As clean as a whistle - the lot of them. Just the sort of managers that you would want to tell your son to be guided by.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

De Rosa wrote:
I am not sure who is clean and who isn't. But I am relieved that some pro teams are being run by people such as Riis, Museuuw and Kim Andersen just to name a few. We know the future is good with managers like that. As clean as a whistle - the lot of them. Just the sort of managers that you would want to tell your son to be guided by.


Ex-pros who are now Team managers/DSs could be ex dopers..so are they fit to help the sport?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know this will raise a few eyebrows, and the woosies will be holding up their hands in horror stating infringement of civil liberties, isn't it about time that there was a worldwide DNA database, not just for cycling but for everything.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fergus wrote:
De Rosa wrote:
I am not sure who is clean and who isn't. But I am relieved that some pro teams are being run by people such as Riis, Museuuw and Kim Andersen just to name a few. We know the future is good with managers like that. As clean as a whistle - the lot of them. Just the sort of managers that you would want to tell your son to be guided by.


Ex-pros who are now Team managers/DSs could be ex dopers..so are they fit to help the sport?


I was being ironic.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

De Rosa wrote:
I was being ironic.


Or maybe sarcastic?!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know one pro who is 100% clean - Roger Hammond!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

T-Mobile are doing a great job aren't they? When you look at their riders this year they're all the guys who have a squeaky clean rep.

Did some racing in Italy a while back, loads of the amateurs there are doped to the gills, it's horrendous - was talking about this to an old Italian ex pro who was organising a race and when I asked him if he thought there were any clean Italian pro's he said: "Pinotti and Guerini". Check out who the Italians on T-Mobile's team are this year, not proof but.....

As for Astana and Tinkoff, they're just taking the Evil or Very Mad but at least it's humourous, unlike Discovery.....
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tightop wrote:
I know one pro who is 100% clean - Roger Hammond!


You mean you believe him to be?

How do you categorically know? Have you shadowed him 24/7 since he started riding his bike?

Only the riders know if they are clean or not.
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