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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:38 pm    Post subject: Knees in cold weather Reply with quote

Is it common to be susceptible to knee injuries in very cold weather?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to be more careful in cold weather that's for sure. Knee warmers and longs?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roy Gardiner wrote:
I have to be more careful in cold weather that's for sure. Knee warmers and longs?


Except the bunching of too much fabric behind the knees *can* cause other issues.

Windstopper (or airblock) fronted longs.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, often Tights that are too 'tight' don't allow proper movement of the knee, so make sure you get the right fit.

Other than that, just smear a dollop of warming gel over the knee area before a long ride.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also try to maintain flexibility and do a decent warm up. Make sure you don't start a ride with cold legs.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe a short turbotrainer warm up before goin out?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mattr wrote:
Roy Gardiner wrote:
I have to be more careful in cold weather that's for sure. Knee warmers and longs?


Except the bunching of too much fabric behind the knees *can* cause other issues.

Windstopper (or airblock) fronted longs.

Can being the operative word. I wear winter strength bibtights on top of bibknickers (ie covering the knee) in very cold weather, like yesterday's -3C. Never had a problem with the fabrics bunching. The key is well fitting garments as always.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and i thought I was the only one doing this trick Wink yep bib shorts over leg warmers (slightly thermal) then winter bib tights on top, they are a slightly large fit though so seem perfect with stuff on underneath, does it for me and my dodgy winter knee Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dogma Dave wrote:
mattr wrote:
Roy Gardiner wrote:
I have to be more careful in cold weather that's for sure. Knee warmers and longs?


Except the bunching of too much fabric behind the knees *can* cause other issues.

Windstopper (or airblock) fronted longs.

Can being the operative word. I wear winter strength bibtights on top of bibknickers (ie covering the knee) in very cold weather, like yesterday's -3C. Never had a problem with the fabrics bunching. The key is well fitting garments as always.


and thin enough fabric.
Some of the old crappy woolen tights would be too thick to wear with anything else!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Patrick wrote:

Other than that, just smear a dollop of warming gel over the knee area before a long ride.


Just asking for trouble doing this!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gary K wrote:
Patrick wrote:

Other than that, just smear a dollop of warming gel over the knee area before a long ride.


Just asking for trouble doing this!


Admitedly, I've not done this as I don't suffer in the cold, but know of people who have.

What's the issue with it?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Patrick wrote:
What's the issue with it?


It doesn't actually make you warm.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mattr wrote:
Patrick wrote:
What's the issue with it?


It doesn't actually make you warm.


Might make his knee's warm though?...or sting ( XXX Heat Balm I once tried!)
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Patrick wrote:
mattr wrote:
Patrick wrote:
What's the issue with it?


It doesn't actually make you warm.


Might make his knee's warm though?...or sting ( XXX Heat Balm I once tried!)


No, doesn't make anything actually get warmer.

Just makes you feel warm.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It irritates the skin, thus drawing mor blood to the surface. Thus it does warm the local area, which might work for the knee joint, but not for large muscles where you want the blood to flow to. You would want to keep the knee proctected from cold air still, so I would still use knee warmers at the least, maybe a Belladonna patch later in the year when the air temp starts to warm.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On a related note, can anyone recommend some extra warm bib-longs? I've got a couple of pairs of De Marchi ones for some reason, fine above freezing but below I reckon I need something warmer.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stinging and surface irritation is not exactly keeping your knees warm like good quality bib tights do.

It draws blood away from the core of muscles and as the knee is not exactly well endowed in the muscle area, will effectively starve whatever muscle or core bood flow that is present there.

I'd recommend that everyone stays away from stuff like "Deep Heat", "Tiger Balm", etc, especially on the legs and especially pre-workout/race.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tucker wrote:
On a related note, can anyone recommend some extra warm bib-longs? I've got a couple of pairs of De Marchi ones for some reason, fine above freezing but below I reckon I need something warmer.


Santini Extreme Breeze bibtights-the warmest Ive used by some distance. Fully windproof, waterresistant fabric. I use these and riding in temperatures well below zero up here in the north is fine.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tucker wrote:
On a related note, can anyone recommend some extra warm bib-longs? I've got a couple of pairs of De Marchi ones for some reason, fine above freezing but below I reckon I need something warmer.


As you're an accountant, ergo, tight as the proverbial duck's bum, why not just take the traditional route and use black bin bags taped to your legs. The tape, and bags, procured from work of course! Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gary K wrote:
Stinging and surface irritation is not exactly keeping your knees warm like good quality bib tights do.

It draws blood away from the core of muscles and as the knee is not exactly well endowed in the muscle area, will effectively starve whatever muscle or core bood flow that is present there.

I'd recommend that everyone stays away from stuff like "Deep Heat", "Tiger Balm", etc, especially on the legs and especially pre-workout/race.


Is deep heat ok after a ride, if your joints are feeling a bit sore?
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