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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:12 pm    Post subject: CADEL Reply with quote

Awesome ride Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:16 pm    Post subject: cadel Reply with quote

I had a feeling about Cadel three or four days ago but then with Schleck doing so well in the mountains wasn't certain , let's hope nothing goes wrong tomorrow for him.

Ever since he first rode the Tour I've wanted him to be a winner..

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He may have the legs of a champion, but he's got the personality of an accountant.
Got to love him though, just for wiping the smiles off the faces of the bunkbed brothers.

Chapeau Cadel. Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SteveO wrote:
He may have the legs of a champion, but he's got the personality of an accountant.


I wouldn't know. I've never met him.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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He may have the legs of a champion, but he's got the personality of an accountant.



He's an athlete, not a celeb forfuxsake
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And your point is?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If only he had ridden on the Alpe in 2008 with the same conviction that he rode the Galibier after Andy this year, he could be a 2 time champion now.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If only he had ridden on the Alpe in 2008 with the same conviction that he rode the Galibier after Andy this year, he could be a 2 time champion now.


What an ill informed comment. In 2008 he was ganged up on 3 to 1 and in the end the least able rider of the three got away and won.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mho wrote:
Megman wrote:
If only he had ridden on the Alpe in 2008 with the same conviction that he rode the Galibier after Andy this year, he could be a 2 time champion now.


What an ill informed comment. In 2008 he was ganged up on 3 to 1 and in the end the least able rider of the three got away and won.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mho wrote:
Megman wrote:
If only he had ridden on the Alpe in 2008 with the same conviction that he rode the Galibier after Andy this year, he could be a 2 time champion now.


What an ill informed comment. In 2008 he was ganged up on 3 to 1 and in the end the least able rider of the three got away and won.
How was he ganged up on? If he had ridden the alpe from the front exactly as he did on the Galibier then he would have won that tour. IIRC he had the better placed Schlek sitting on his wheel this time too. Doesn't matter if one of those on his wheel had jumped away at the end for a few seconds (as Frank did again this year) it was the guy getting two and half minutes up the front he needed to worry about. Andy kept attacking and Cadel kept chasing him and then waiting for someone else to do the work. Andy was over 10 minutes down, he was not a threat. Cadel had the power to set a high tempo and keep it going all the way up the Alpe.

This year he turned up the wick with a group of 30 or so on his wheel and whittled it down to no more than a handful. It was the ride of a champion and if he had been as prepared to stick his nose into the wind 3 years ago it wouldn't have been Sastre in yellow.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Megman wrote:
mho wrote:
Megman wrote:
If only he had ridden on the Alpe in 2008 with the same conviction that he rode the Galibier after Andy this year, he could be a 2 time champion now.


What an ill informed comment. In 2008 he was ganged up on 3 to 1 and in the end the least able rider of the three got away and won.
How was he ganged up on? If he had ridden the alpe from the front exactly as he did on the Galibier then he would have won that tour. IIRC he had the better placed Schlek sitting on his wheel this time too. Doesn't matter if one of those on his wheel had jumped away at the end for a few seconds (as Frank did again this year) it was the guy getting two and half minutes up the front he needed to worry about. Andy kept attacking and Cadel kept chasing him and then waiting for someone else to do the work. Andy was over 10 minutes down, he was not a threat. Cadel had the power to set a high tempo and keep it going all the way up the Alpe.

This year he turned up the wick with a group of 30 or so on his wheel and whittled it down to no more than a handful. It was the ride of a champion and if he had been as prepared to stick his nose into the wind 3 years ago it wouldn't have been Sastre in yellow.


Much as I like to believe you, mho has in the past used the word FACT after his posts in capital letters, and can therefore by no means be described as a cut'n'paste bullshit merchant, therefore mho gets my vote in this dispute
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Megman wrote:
mho wrote:
Megman wrote:
If only he had ridden on the Alpe in 2008 with the same conviction that he rode the Galibier after Andy this year, he could be a 2 time champion now.


What an ill informed comment. In 2008 he was ganged up on 3 to 1 and in the end the least able rider of the three got away and won.
How was he ganged up on? If he had ridden the alpe from the front exactly as he did on the Galibier then he would have won that tour. IIRC he had the better placed Schlek sitting on his wheel this time too. Doesn't matter if one of those on his wheel had jumped away at the end for a few seconds (as Frank did again this year) it was the guy getting two and half minutes up the front he needed to worry about. Andy kept attacking and Cadel kept chasing him and then waiting for someone else to do the work. Andy was over 10 minutes down, he was not a threat. Cadel had the power to set a high tempo and keep it going all the way up the Alpe.

This year he turned up the wick with a group of 30 or so on his wheel and whittled it down to no more than a handful. It was the ride of a champion and if he had been as prepared to stick his nose into the wind 3 years ago it wouldn't have been Sastre in yellow.


You need to re-watch the stage then. Sastre's was the third or fourth attack after mainly Andy had constantly attacked him. He then did assume the lead chase role with both the Schelcks clearly having an armchair ride looking so comfy but constrained from further attacks (no doubt with instructions in the earpiece).

This is the first clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48g_7NFKcnk I found and the music is quite appropriate.

Bottom line Cadel didn't have the legs that day. Second it was considered borderline Sastre would hold on in the TT and Cadel didn't have the legs that day either.

The difference, well form apart Cadel had been far more isolated in that Tour.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Megman wrote:
If only he had ridden on the Alpe in 2008 with the same conviction that he rode the Galibier after Andy this year, he could be a 2 time champion now.


Hindesight is a wonderful thing but it's never available when you need it.

Fantastic performance by Cadel and Cav.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Megman wrote:
mho wrote:
Megman wrote:
If only he had ridden on the Alpe in 2008 with the same conviction that he rode the Galibier after Andy this year, he could be a 2 time champion now.


What an ill informed comment. In 2008 he was ganged up on 3 to 1 and in the end the least able rider of the three got away and won.
How was he ganged up on? If he had ridden the alpe from the front exactly as he did on the Galibier then he would have won that tour. IIRC he had the better placed Schlek sitting on his wheel this time too. Doesn't matter if one of those on his wheel had jumped away at the end for a few seconds (as Frank did again this year) it was the guy getting two and half minutes up the front he needed to worry about. Andy kept attacking and Cadel kept chasing him and then waiting for someone else to do the work. Andy was over 10 minutes down, he was not a threat. Cadel had the power to set a high tempo and keep it going all the way up the Alpe.

This year he turned up the wick with a group of 30 or so on his wheel and whittled it down to no more than a handful. It was the ride of a champion and if he had been as prepared to stick his nose into the wind 3 years ago it wouldn't have been Sastre in yellow.


Clearly the real problem Cadel had on that day was not having you in the Team car screaming in his earpiece.

I assume you re-created all the scenarios on that day using these:

http://www.superstock.com/stock-photos-images/1566-0246445
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does he inhale a bit of helium before each interview?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LocalBoy wrote:

Clearly the real problem Cadel had on that day was not having you in the Team car screaming in his earpiece.

I assume you re-created all the scenarios on that day using these:

http://www.superstock.com/stock-photos-images/1566-0246445


Is this a good representation ...




Smile

Not mine unfortunately.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jXvKQ2MVCw&NR=1

Yer - Cadel did ride defensively in 2008. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tony Bell wrote:
Does he inhale a bit of helium before each interview?


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