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Do you agree with mandatory helmet use |
No way, nobody tells me what to do! |
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66% |
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Yes, its the sensible approach. |
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20% |
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Only for the under 18's |
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TBK Div 3 Pro
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:30 am Post subject: No choice over helmet use. |
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/jersey/8567448.stm
Anybody for or against, your views appreciated. _________________ A positive mental attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. |
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Rob of the Og E, Gold
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:35 am Post subject: |
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Hans Datdodishes T de F Winner
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:41 am Post subject: |
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I've written to my MP requesting that the same law be passed in this country
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Will Scarlet E, Silver
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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I've written to my MP asking that all car drivers and pedestrians should also be required to wear helmets. |
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Thomo Div 1 Pro
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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Why is 'yes' the 'sensible approach'?
Too much bias in the Poll options - should be a simple Yes, No, or Yes for U18.
Paul _________________
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TBK Div 3 Pro
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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Thomo wrote: |
Why is 'yes' the 'sensible approach'?
Too much bias in the Poll options - should be a simple Yes, No, or Yes for U18.
Paul |
Would, "Yes, I would prefer to be a cabbage after a head impact rather than be killed outright." be more acceptable to you? _________________ A positive mental attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. |
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Thomo Div 1 Pro
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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TBK wrote: |
Would, "Yes, I would prefer to be a cabbage after a head impact rather than be killed outright." be more acceptable to you? |
Not sure you understand the concept of a balanced option in polls.
If it's not, then the Poll is invalid.
You also need to do some research.
Paul _________________
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mattr World Champ
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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Thomo wrote: |
You also need to do some research. |
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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Under 12s only, I reckon. _________________ Thinking about riding since 1988 |
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JimmyRay E, Silver
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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Hey, the way I look at it is this... I am retiring from bike racing end of the year... nothign will be brought in before that deadline date, and if it passes as law after that, then heck, I'll just get in my car, and clog the roads with another polluting death trap like everyone else.
A pair of runnign shoes will keep me just as fit, but I'll be at home more often (when not queing on my way home from/to work) and I'll have more money. The marketeers at Giro/Bell etc and the governments safety plans will nto get my money. So there.
So the answer from me is...who gives a duck. |
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JimmyRay E, Silver
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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And TBK, I don't think you've done enough to skew the results in your favour... why not change the no answer to....
'No way, no one tells me what to do, plus it'll get in teh way when I am fiddling with kids and killing puppies and stuff' |
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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JimmyRay wrote: |
And TBK, I don't think you've done enough to skew the results in your favour... why not change the no answer to....
'No way, no one tells me what to do, plus it'll get in the way when I am fiddling with kids and killing puppies and stuff' |
But think of the lines you could give the kids about seeing or polishing your helmet??? _________________ A positive mental attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. |
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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It's been driven by ONE politician, who had the sad thing of his son get hurt in an accident, and decided that had he been wearing a helmet, he may have not been brain damaged. What he's proposing is helmet for under 18s (children, in law?). So whilst you can join the forces at 17.5 years, you can't be responsible for your own decsiions - on Jersey. BBC ran a piece of the usual style, why not intorduce it in all of UK. Simple question - enforcement. Much easier to spot than tawts on their mobiles or TEXTING on the motorway. Who tells, who is over 18, and if Mr plod tries to stop someone and they just ride off, identification?? All nonsense. The only way would be universal use by law, and then I would get a record like everyone else, who drive without seat belts, phoning, using their laptop (really!), reading the paper like a bloke I saw on an A road last week, DRIVING A 44 TONNER.
Still, the nanny brigade think a helmet will make us safe from all these idiots, so that's all right then. _________________ Mexican underwater chili eating champion 1957
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Magnier E, Silver
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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I would never go out on my bike without a helmet.
But as with many other laws in this country, doesn't mean others should be told to wear one. |
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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Magnier wrote: |
I would never go out on my bike without a helmet.
But as with many other laws in this country, doesn't mean others should be told to wear one. |
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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Salsiccia wrote: |
Under 12s only, I reckon. |
What do you think would be an appropriate criminal sanction for your average under 12? _________________ I tell myself I will not go,
even as I drive there. |
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Salsiccia E, Gold
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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Joursans wrote: |
Salsiccia wrote: |
Under 12s only, I reckon. |
What do you think would be an appropriate criminal sanction for your average under 12? |
Nothing. A fine for the parents for negligence. _________________ Thinking about riding since 1988 |
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Rob of the Og E, Gold
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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Joursans wrote: |
Salsiccia wrote: |
Under 12s only, I reckon. |
What do you think would be an appropriate criminal sanction for your average under 12? |
More to the point, what's an appropriate criminal sanction for opening yet another helmet thread on a cycling forum? |
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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They'd be better off making the car driver responsible by law (like in Spain) rather using helmets to mitigate the root cause, which is motorist don't give fek about cyclists.
Root cause analysis required..... _________________ A member of the facebook "YER" Group |
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