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big al 83 Cat 4 Groupie
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:10 pm Post subject: Lactate buffers |
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On my last few rides out I've experianced bad lactate build up in my thighs.
Is there a supplement I can take to help keep it at bay a little longer?
If so, where can I get it from?
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hbulstrode Cat 1 Groupie
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Northern Hero E, Silver
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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hbulstrode Cat 1 Groupie
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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That's an interesting article- I remember people used to take bicarb for ergo tests when I was rowing.
1-2% pretty quickly gets wiped out by the diarrhoea and vomiting though!
And anyway in cycling the benefit is really only relevant to track events and hillclimbs as everything else goes on too long... |
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big al 83 Cat 4 Groupie
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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:56 am Post subject: |
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Of course, I suspect what you mean is that your legs were knackered after a couple of hours. This is nothing to do with lactate buildup. |
No. It can come on at the very first climb. Get to the top and it gradually goes. But the next big effort it's back again. |
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mho Div 1 Pro
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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:05 am Post subject: |
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big al 83 wrote: |
twat wrote: |
Of course, I suspect what you mean is that your legs were knackered after a couple of hours. This is nothing to do with lactate buildup. |
No. It can come on at the very first climb. Get to the top and it gradually goes. But the next big effort it's back again. |
Context please.
You training on your own, in a group.? Are you rested or training heavily? |
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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:22 am Post subject: |
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The best solution for this problem is to get fitter. _________________ "Well done, you are 100% absolutely without a shadow of a doubt spot-bollock-on correct." - Tucker
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Steve McGinty Div 2 Pro
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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:31 am Post subject: |
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JimmyRay E, Silver
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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:46 am Post subject: |
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best way to build buffers in the legs is to start out more gently and let your body sort its self out. if you are going into a hard hilly after a few days rest, your muscles are going to be more susceptible (nice spelling) to lactate acid, one of the reasons why you should always do a warm up ride the day before a race with some big efforts in it.
beyond that, as mentioned get fitter and it'll get better.
Also, as an aside, the symptoms mentioned could also indicate that you have chronic fatigue in your muscles.... basically you are f-ecked and need a couple of easyweeks (proper easy weeks too) to let teh muscles really repair and then you won't be so fragile.
So... go away, and ask yourself, have you been smashing it of late, if so, do less. If you have been doing beggar all, do more, but be a bit kinder to your legs in the opening 30-60mins of a ride.
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mho Div 1 Pro
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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:55 am Post subject: |
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Good advice there Jimmyray. |
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big al 83 Cat 4 Groupie
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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:20 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for all the advice guys. 90% of the time I ride on my own and I do tend to go a little too hard from the off, but I've always done that but these last few weeks I've had this problem.
I'll try going a little slower from the off. ![Wink](images/smiles/icon_wink.gif) |
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KJ T de F Winner
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big al 83 wrote: |
Thanks for all the advice guys. 90% of the time I ride on my own and I do tend to go a little too hard from the off, but I've always done that but these last few weeks I've had this problem.
I'll try going a little slower from the off. ![Wink](images/smiles/icon_wink.gif) |
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Jimmy c Cat 2 Groupie
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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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have you checked your position, sounds like your saddle may be too low. you shouldnt get that much pain uless going balls out |
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Gains E, Bronze
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