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Average miles per week in winter. |
below 50 |
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11% |
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50-60 |
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1% |
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60-70 |
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6% |
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70-80 |
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2% |
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80-90 |
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8% |
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100-150 |
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37% |
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150+ (please state) |
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31% |
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scotsbigfella E, Silver
Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Posts: 1587 Location: opposite your house on a rooftop
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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i dont do any training, full stop! summer or winter! _________________ so much time so little to do! |
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Animal E, Silver
Joined: 19 Oct 2002 Posts: 1867 Location: East Notts
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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Oooo! Aren't you baaaad? _________________ I don't enjoy golf. BAN IT. |
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Fashion Man 1980 E, Gold
Joined: 25 Oct 2005 Posts: 2541 Location: Europe
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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I train to hours. Each ride is specific but is measured in time rather than distance. Such as three hour ride at 'x' percentage heart-rate or maintaining 'x' watts. Some rides may contain efforts or specific work etc.
Last week was first week back training after rest period. Did just over 15 hours and will maintain that until the end of the month. Then increase training (distance and intensity) systematically (sp) over the next few months. Will be doing between 22-25 hours per week in February. Then go Sardinia in March, doing big hours again with specifics. Then racing in April onwards. _________________ Coffee wins! |
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Dastardly E, Silver
Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 1791 Location: Lancashire
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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Knowing Bettini quite well I think his question was aimed at oct/nov/dec - I think that the results are skewed by peoples jan/feb/mar miles. Most racers will be ramping up their programme by then.
For me, whose target is to get to 2nd from 3rd cat next season, I am trying to do one longish ride per week plus another session(turbo) midweek, which equates to about 100. Then in January start the build up. But i guess you know that Bettini |
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Pierre Head Div 1 Pro
Joined: 06 Apr 2005 Posts: 7839 Location: Albert Dock
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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John McC wrote: |
100-150 miles per week October-December (except exam period)
150-220 miles per week January - March. |
Sounds sensible John, but I would like you all to do 100 miles on Sundays riding 42x20(or equiv). It will benefit your cadence. _________________ 't Ros Beijaart.
De lange zwarte wolk blijft mij volgen. |
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John McC Moderator
Joined: 14 Jul 2003 Posts: 24510 Location: Leafy Barnet
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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Bog off _________________ John McClelland's victory in the motor paced event with Derek Marloe on the derny was a thing of beauty (Oldmanof) |
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monk Div 1 Pro
Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 6589
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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I tend to advise people using a WCPP training programme based on a summer/autumn worlds. Until Jan 1st 8-12 hrs per week on bike at vast majority 'v light' and max 'moderate' intestity (150 bpm max). Quantity and quality only to be upped in new year.
For amateurs/not-full-timers i suggest working on 50 - 66% of the ideal for full timers. I.e. 4-8hrs gentle per week till chrimbo. This would be say 65-140 miles depending on the rider and how much is solo/group riding.
Only specific for amateurs is not cramming the weeks riding into 1-2 sessions and to aim for 3 or pref 4 rides or a week to make up the 4-8 hrs and a max of 3hrs on any single ride to avoid bulk resource depletion. |
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AliCarr E, Silver
Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 1143 Location: wolverhampton
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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What if i want to ride the road next season, but also like to do the track during the winter. Will that affect my base miles? _________________ Seizing the day since 1988. |
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bonger Guest
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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This time of the year it's easier to do long rides. I don't have to leave until just before 9:00am at the moment if i want to do a 7 hour ride if i want to get back before it's dark. In December it's not possible.
I have never trained like this before, the longest rides i have done are 5 hours and i had only done a few of those in the past. Now 4 hours seems very short and 5 seem about normal. |
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monk Div 1 Pro
Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 6589
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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unless you are either taking *CENSORED* or intend riding european pro stage races I would not recommend super long rides until new year. Still only max of 4hours ish though. Sub-elite road races are 2-3 hours max so rides need to be little more than that.
i would account a winter track league to be equivalent to an hours mixed intense training session. if doing a winter league you should need to do little else in the range of intesity over the week to avoid overcooking yourself too soon.
You might be able to do mega long rides now but does it do you any good come race time. The Oct - Dec window is the time of year to under training, consolidating the past seasons progress, getting completely recovered and getting away from the bike and day in day out training. The only guys who need to do 4-6hrs plaus rides are premier RRs and 12-24 hr tters and then only not in oct,nov,dec.
Most riders who are keen and pushing themselves at this time of year are simply kidding themselves and doing too much too sonn and are falling into the trap of the winter warrior, flying in march, stale by may, not bothered about races come july, overkeen again by october. Hold back, do a minumum, enjoy your riding, smoothen yourself out, get healthy. Come Jan you can build and come feb march april you can really stomp up the workload (20-30hrs for full timers, 10-20 for amateurs) and bring your form on ready for the season.
You can obviously ignore all this advice and just aim to win the new years 10 but dont expect to win much come season time. |
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bonger Guest
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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I don't understand why i should be riding any less than the best cyclists in the world. |
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John McC Moderator
Joined: 14 Jul 2003 Posts: 24510 Location: Leafy Barnet
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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bonger wrote: |
I don't understand why i should be riding any less than the best cyclists in the world. |
Because the best cyclist in the world do more than the odd 10 mile TT! _________________ John McClelland's victory in the motor paced event with Derek Marloe on the derny was a thing of beauty (Oldmanof) |
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bonger Guest
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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John McC wrote: |
bonger wrote: |
I don't understand why i should be riding any less than the best cyclists in the world. |
Because the best cyclist in the world do more than the odd 10 mile TT! |
So whos training should i be trying to follow if i want to ride as well as i possibly can at whatver events i choose to ride? |
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Emyr42 Div 3 Pro
Joined: 18 Jul 2005 Posts: 4298 Location: Bolton
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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Sharman. |
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John McC Moderator
Joined: 14 Jul 2003 Posts: 24510 Location: Leafy Barnet
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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Ask a good coach. _________________ John McClelland's victory in the motor paced event with Derek Marloe on the derny was a thing of beauty (Oldmanof) |
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bonger Guest
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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John McC wrote: |
Ask a good coach. |
There's no need, the answer is the best cyclists in the world. Nowadays their is hardly a sucessfull person out there that hasn't chosed a sucessfull person to model at and sport or business. |
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John McC Moderator
Joined: 14 Jul 2003 Posts: 24510 Location: Leafy Barnet
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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So are you doing the TdeF next year, or leaving it to 2007? _________________ John McClelland's victory in the motor paced event with Derek Marloe on the derny was a thing of beauty (Oldmanof) |
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bonger Guest
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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He's apro and i am an amature and therefore i should be building to 20 hours a week and he should be building to 30. |
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Emyr42 Div 3 Pro
Joined: 18 Jul 2005 Posts: 4298 Location: Bolton
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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bonger wrote: |
So whos training should i be trying to follow if i want to ride as well as i possibly can at whatver events i choose to ride? |
so long as you're matching the time & intensity, rather than the raw distance, that's ok. remember you'd have to ease yourself into it though, not just dive into the program. |
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coal miner E, Bronze
Joined: 30 Oct 2002 Posts: 481 Location: Lichfield
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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owyn wrote: |
about 1000 before Christmas and then ramp it up in January. |
Is that per week _________________ "Im so glad that this has taken me so long as its the journey that has made me so strong" |
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