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Do you have confidence in British Cycling (aka BCF)
Yes
70%
 70%  [ 73 ]
No
29%
 29%  [ 31 ]
Total Votes : 104

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Big c, it doesnt do you any favours to start insulting me personally.


Like I care. I'm not the one (like Brian) who is up there (at his own time and expense) being in charge of BC, whilst you bunch of sh1ts abuse him.


Abuse me all you like, I can give way much better than you could ever give.
I don't care either.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big c still going on and on?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think the Londoners here should be aware that everybody knows they did nothing when any other facilities north of the Watford gap were in trouble, they have not been replaced. So lets be aware that losing Eastway and gaining one of the best indoor track in the world, plus a road circuit on the same site is not going to be looked on as a disaster by anybody else. Suffer for a couple of years and the benefits will appear.


As I said before - two wrongs don't equal a right. The road circuit would not be on the same site anyway.

Cycling is richer and better catered for now than it has been in recent years. Eastway also has the greatest attendance of any cycling facility in London.

If there was no alternative to Ramney I think that we Londoners would accept it. The fact is that there is a very viable alternative. The issue is not whether we get a replacement but which of the two sites that replacement is.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Big c is losing it!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Actually, I DO care, just that you cannot have EVERYTHING you want in life (even me). Sometimes compromises have to be made. Yet 'ypu lot' seem to be incapable of understanding that.

Are you all descendants of 1970s tradeunionists ?


But why does a compromise have to be made with this issue? The owners of the land at Hog Hill are keen to develop it for cycling and have facilitated swift action in its promotion as an alternative to Ramney.

Big-C - why do you not support this? You appear to be taking the alternate viewpoint for the sake of it.

Why on earth would anyone prefer to race about within 7ha when there is a larger site available?

Or do you have a liking for being conservative with space as well as thinking?


I'm not taking a viewpoint on any side of this pointless debate on here, apart from the fact you lot are acting like Evil or Very Mad


and I bet Hog Hill owner would love all that revenue from whoever has to fund it .... have you ever thought of that ? Thought not. Old piece of land, sold to whoever for x £million a year in grants .... Keeeeerrrrrching


Big-C If you consider this a pointless debate then do us all a favour and go get colouring.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think Big c is losing it!



I lost it years ago. Anyone who knows me will tell you that.


what's your excuse for being a pr@tt ?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think Big c is losing it!


Losing what?! What did he ever have? Nothing constructive to say as far as I can see.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another personal insult, please we are trying to discuss the eastway replacement.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Another personal insult, please we are trying to discuss the eastway replacement.



No, you were abusing Brian Cookson is a very subtle way. Discuss it properly, with an objective discussion.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phew hes back in control.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Another personal insult, please we are trying to discuss the eastway replacement.



No, you were abusing Brian Cookson is a very subtle way. Discuss it properly, with an objective discussion.


Such as this

http://www.veloriders.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=500288#500288

and this

http://www.veloriders.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=500293&sid=1016805f162ba604039af5ab0c39ca15#500293



Personally, I think the chap called ldncycle seems to be very objective as is Sir Royston Gardener.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Another personal insult, please we are trying to discuss the eastway replacement.



No, you were abusing Brian Cookson is a very subtle way. Discuss it properly, with an objective discussion.


I hardly call your first post on this thread an objective discussion, has the wind changed or something?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyway, hasn't anyone got some training to do?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big-C wrote:
Big-C wrote:
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Another personal insult, please we are trying to discuss the eastway replacement.



No, you were abusing Brian Cookson is a very subtle way. Discuss it properly, with an objective discussion.


Such as this

http://www.veloriders.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=500288#500288

and this

http://www.veloriders.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=500293&sid=1016805f162ba604039af5ab0c39ca15#500293



Personally, I think the chap called ldncycle seems to be very objective as is Sir Royston Gardener.


Good, because ldncycle is making some very good points here right now.

I am glad to hear that you are agreeing with him and thus agree that Hog Hill is the best option. Now can you get your pals at the BCF to get on the page.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

passia wrote:
Big-C wrote:
Big-C wrote:
Zontor the Destroyer wrote:
Another personal insult, please we are trying to discuss the eastway replacement.



No, you were abusing Brian Cookson is a very subtle way. Discuss it properly, with an objective discussion.


Such as this

http://www.veloriders.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=500288#500288

and this

http://www.veloriders.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=500293&sid=1016805f162ba604039af5ab0c39ca15#500293



Personally, I think the chap called ldncycle seems to be very objective as is Sir Royston Gardener.


Good, because ldncycle is making some very good points here right now.

I am glad to hear that you are agreeing with him and thus agree that Hog Hill is the best option. Now can you get your pals at the BCF to get on the page.


I said objective. I can't agree with anyone cos like most of us I'm not in possession of the full facts ...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote]whilst you bunch of sh1ts
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I can give way much better than you could ever give.[quote]

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Stop being a t1t


The words of Big c, the objective debater.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Zontor the Destroyer"][quote]whilst you bunch of sh1ts
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I can give way much better than you could ever give.
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The words of Big c, the objective debater.


My point was, you don't like it when you're being abused. I'm sure nor does Brian, when you are treating him in the same way.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Zontor did like to be abused or insulted, would that make it ok to insult people then?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Show me a TLI or any other organisation that has produced Olympic riders like BC have.... sorry but other organisations (even CTT) just do not come close.

I don't agree with everything - I would like more focus on Road Racing because I am passionate about it - but if RR can piggy back off the success of Track then I am happy about that.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hunterbark wrote:
I think the Londoners here should be aware that everybody knows they did nothing when any other facilities north of the Watford gap were in trouble, they have not been replaced.


Elaina put a post on the London Cycle sport forum when we were trying to resurrect Saffron Lane - to quote their response "what do we care about a Midland track?"
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