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Lock ring or no lock ring

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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:27 pm Post subject:

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But young riders still have to use lockrings; its enforced pretty rigorously for them.

Having read all these post, but not being a track rider I have to ask.....

WHY ?????????? Confused

It makes no sense.

same reason they have to wear helmets in TTs
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:49 pm Post subject:

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But young riders still have to use lockrings; its enforced pretty rigorously for them.

How can that be. I haven't seen a bike check for years.

Getting back to the question, there is no need for a lockring, as a sprocket will not loosen due to a bit of reverse pressure on the pedals. Smile

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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:51 pm Post subject:

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same reason they have to wear helmets in TTs

No, one will not get ones head bashed by not having a lock ring Confused

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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 6:34 pm Post subject:

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But young riders still have to use lockrings; its enforced pretty rigorously for them.

whats the point ov not fitting it ? my chain came orf the otherday & locked the back wheel in the same way as if the lock ring was fitted... all a fuss about nothing.... looking @ the threads i wont be fitting a lockring again Shocked

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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 6:40 pm Post subject:

PNuT wrote:

whats the point ov not fitting it ?

To aid the easy fitting/removal of sprockets - quite handy during a track meeting if you've chosen the wrong ratio.
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 6:46 pm Post subject:

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PNuT wrote:

whats the point ov not fitting it ?

To aid the easy fitting/removal of sprockets - quite handy during a track meeting if you've chosen the wrong ratio.

not sure a lock ring aids the fitting ov a sprocket... may make it slightly quicker

i reckon if you had a flip flop hub theres a 50/50 chance you wud have the rite sized sprocket which wud be far quicker Wink

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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 6:48 pm Post subject:

I took my sprogs to a BSCA track day at Halesowen. They insisted on lockrings and the organiser, anticipating that lots would turn up without, came with a bagful. They could only happen near Birmingham where they used to make the things. There were also guys with sprockets for sale, all sizes from 11 to 23, 1/8 and 3/32; proper sprockets, made in Birmingham with names like Villiers on them. Not that soft pressed rubbish you get nowadays.

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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 6:56 pm Post subject:

PNuT wrote:

not sure a lock ring aids the fitting ov a sprocket... may make it slightly quicker

What

I think you've missed something

PNuT wrote:

i reckon if you had a flip flop hub theres a 50/50 chance you wud have the rite sized sprocket which wud be far quicker Wink

I'n my experience, the sprocket you want is on another wheel. So with lockrings you'd be farting about for ages Exclamation

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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 7:10 pm Post subject:

i reckon it takes me about 10 seconds to remove a lockring & about the same to fit... maybe you are mechanically inferior to me? _________________ PNuT, who could forget PNuT http://www.pedalrevolution.co.uk

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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 7:11 pm Post subject:

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Whippet wrote:

same reason they have to wear helmets in TTs

No, one will not get ones head bashed by not having a lock ring Confused

power.

. moral authoritariansim. Shocked

. control society. Shocked

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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 7:14 pm Post subject:

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i reckon it takes me about 10 seconds to remove a lockring & about the same to fit...

maybe you are mechanically inferior to me?

No, just don't have the correct spanner; but don't really need one.
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 7:23 pm Post subject:

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power.

. moral authoritariansim. Shocked

. control society. Shocked

What is life like on your planet Wink

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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 7:26 pm Post subject:

John McC wrote:

PNuT wrote:

i reckon it takes me about 10 seconds to remove a lockring & about the same to fit...

maybe you are mechanically inferior to me?

No, just don't have the correct spanner; but don't really need one.

personally i dont give a monkies about a lock ring... i agree that the sprocket is unlikely to come undone by backwards pressure if fitted corectly..... having one fitted will protect ya threads tho
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 7:46 pm Post subject:

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power. . moral authoritariansim. . control society. .

I agree, the sprocket transmits power, whether you use one or not is a moral issue, and its fundamentaly about being able to control the bike. You on that Beagle 2 or what?

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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 7:55 pm Post subject:

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power. . moral authoritariansim. . control society. .

I agree, the sprocket transmits power, whether you use one or not is a moral issue, and its fundamentaly about being able to control the bike. You on that Beagle 2 or what?

is beagle 2 that satellite? if so yes i'd like to be so i can see things other people can't. like living on a mountain but better. i was going to write an essay here in reply to you about discipline, punishment and control societies, power relations etc but really none of you care. so i'll carry on irritating everyone with occasional snippets like that.
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 7:59 pm Post subject:

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so i'll carry on irritating everyone

errrrrrrr almost everyone Wink

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