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When will a GB rider win the Tour? |
Within the next 2 years |
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5% |
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Within the next 2 - 4 years |
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8% |
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Within the next 4 - 6 years |
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10% |
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Within the next 6 - 8 years |
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12% |
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Within the next 8 - 10 years |
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20% |
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Within the next 10 - 15 years |
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17% |
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Within the next 15 - 30 years |
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25% |
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Billy Boy T de F Winner

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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:41 am Post subject: When will a GB rider win the Tour? |
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What do you reckon? _________________ "Well done, you are 100% absolutely without a shadow of a doubt spot-bollock-on correct." - Tucker
"Eating is not for wimps" - coal miner
"most of us don't have your brilliance." - John McC |
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matty w E, Bronze
Joined: 20 Feb 2006 Posts: 283 Location: Hartshead Circuit
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:57 am Post subject: |
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Where's the never option?
Not that i'm pessimistic or owt!! _________________ World Coal Carrying Champion 2008 |
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Billy Boy T de F Winner

Joined: 11 Aug 2003 Posts: 30726 Location: Not Aylesbury
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:59 am Post subject: |
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matty w wrote: |
Where's the never option?
Not that i'm pessimistic or owt!! |
I thought I'd put one but it won't let me add it now. _________________ "Well done, you are 100% absolutely without a shadow of a doubt spot-bollock-on correct." - Tucker
"Eating is not for wimps" - coal miner
"most of us don't have your brilliance." - John McC |
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Dogma Dave Div 1 Pro
Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 6714 Location: God's Own County
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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Fourth Sunday in July probably |
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Festina_Lente E, Bronze

Joined: 14 May 2007 Posts: 317 Location: Algarve
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe not win, but I think a contender for the over all will emerge in the next 3-4 years. |
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benlane Div 3 Pro

Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 3960
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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Festina_Lente wrote: |
Maybe not win, but I think a contender for the over all will emerge in the next 3-4 years. |
That would probably mean that they are currently racing.
Can't think of a GT contender that we currently know about (admitedly i don't know how good all our juniors are) |
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Festina_Lente E, Bronze

Joined: 14 May 2007 Posts: 317 Location: Algarve
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, I'd imagine so. I don't think BC would plan a team for 2010 without a couple of aces up their slieve. |
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Tucker Tour Winner

Joined: 03 May 2006 Posts: 15722 Location: Swindon
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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benlane wrote: |
Festina_Lente wrote: |
Maybe not win, but I think a contender for the over all will emerge in the next 3-4 years. |
That would probably mean that they are currently racing.
Can't think of a GT contender that we currently know about (admitedly i don't know how good all our juniors are) |
Dan Martin, but he's turned Irish now. Don't know how it TT is though. |
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benlane Div 3 Pro

Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 3960
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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Tucker wrote: |
benlane wrote: |
Festina_Lente wrote: |
Maybe not win, but I think a contender for the over all will emerge in the next 3-4 years. |
That would probably mean that they are currently racing.
Can't think of a GT contender that we currently know about (admitedly i don't know how good all our juniors are) |
Dan Martin, but he's turned Irish now. Don't know how it TT is though. |
I thought about Dan, but like you say with the Irish licence??
Would it be like when Colin Jackson won olympic medals he was British, but when he underperformed he was a useless Welsh clown? |
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Craig B E, Silver

Joined: 12 Jun 2002 Posts: 957
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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benlane wrote: |
Can't think of a GT contender that we currently know about (admitedly i don't know how good all our juniors are) |
Chris Froome and Liam Killeen. |
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Voodoo Div 2 Pro

Joined: 19 Oct 2006 Posts: 5675 Location: Park Lane, London / South Wales / Sparta
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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Craig B wrote: |
benlane wrote: |
Can't think of a GT contender that we currently know about (admitedly i don't know how good all our juniors are) |
Chris Froome and Liam Killeen. |
Evans & the Chicken came over from the fat tyres quite well _________________ http://uk.movember.com/mospace/289902/ |
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JONNO Div 1 Pro

Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Posts: 9031 Location: Up North
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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How cool would that be. Might even get a mention in the Sun and the Daily Mirror if there's no footy news. _________________ I was being chased by a police dog last week, and made the mistake of trying to escape through a little tunnel, over a see-saw and through a hoop of fire. It finally caught me as I was weaving in and out of some sticks. |
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colinpeerman E, Gold

Joined: 26 Sep 2006 Posts: 3082
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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I think what DB actually means "is a genuine contender to win the TdF". Bearing in mind there is 1 TdF per annum, and a rider's talent shelf life is ~5 years, it's a small chance to get an actual winner, as history over past 20 years will show you that most tours have been won by very few people. Hinault, Lemond, Indurain, Lance.
Let's face it, without the ASO, Alberto would be on his way to prob 5 in a row ... Doesn't leave much room for anyone else.
I mean, look at old Jan. prob the best cyclist around, except there was one other guy even better. ergo only 1 TdF _________________ wishing my bike fitted as badly as Rich Hill's ... |
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Graham Webb E, Bronze

Joined: 14 Dec 2007 Posts: 303 Location: Flanders, Belgium
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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When they run it under RTTC rules.  |
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Dastardly E, Silver

Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 1791 Location: Lancashire
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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Graham Webb wrote: |
When they run it under RTTC rules.  |
Three weeks on a dual-carriageway, only a brit would have the patience to last.  _________________ May I present to you, the greatest breakthrough in travel since Sir Rodney Tricycle thought to himself, 'I'm bored of walking, i think i'll invent something with three wheels and a bell, and name it after myself.'
:The time machine. |
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StuartBen E, Silver
Joined: 21 Oct 2002 Posts: 1825 Location: West London
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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When they run it under RTTC rules. |
You are far too young to know about it Graham, but in 1950(ish) the RAF CA ran a time trial 5-day Tour of Britain from RAF airfield to RAF airfield.
Subsequently they turned it into a very successful road race but I can't recall who won as I did not ride. Missed selection by Bomber Command by 30 seconds as selection was on 100-mile TT times! As I had never ridden one I just lied, but it wasn't as big a lie as the guy who got the place.
Perhaps a 2-day time trial might be interesting, but would anybody ride? (Oh dear that is off theme.) |
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AlbertHerring E, Silver

Joined: 02 Apr 2008 Posts: 1342 Location: Cistridentine Nottingham
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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Fred Krebs won it when it was a road race in, I guess, 1952 - my dad was 4th and went on about it interminably, to the extent that "I've raced on this road" is still going as a family saying. |
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Fergus Elite Poster

Joined: 24 Sep 2004 Posts: 202
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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well...we may have had one if we BC hadn't off gottheteeshirt way back
Geraint Thomas? |
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mho Div 1 Pro

Joined: 28 Jul 2003 Posts: 9577 Location: going round the banking
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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Fergus wrote: |
well...we may have had one if we BC hadn't off gottheteeshirt way back
Geraint Thomas? |
Geraint's a great rider, but he has so far not featured in the high mountains in any pro tour race let alone in a 3 week tour so to state he can win the tour is frankly daft.
I'd love him to prove me wrong mind. |
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Lee World Champ

Joined: 12 Jul 2002 Posts: 12612 Location: Hertfordshire
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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Voodoo wrote: |
Craig B wrote: |
benlane wrote: |
Can't think of a GT contender that we currently know about (admitedly i don't know how good all our juniors are) |
Chris Froome and Liam Killeen. |
Evans & the Chicken came over from the fat tyres quite well |
So did Miguel Martinez and what happened to him?? He's a class act and I reckon he could well get a medal in Bejing, but while Killeen has had some respectable road results domestically, and in theory of course he could cross over there's little if anything to suggest he could switch to the road with any great success, let alone as a GC contender in the grand tours. For every Rasmussen or Evans, there is a Martinez, or a Danielson, or a Meirhaeghe who have faiiled. _________________
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But, on reflection, you're probably right... |
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