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Pocket Rocket
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 Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 9:45 pm Post subject: Large outdoor or small indoor tracks? |
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| What do you prefer, the fresh air and large bunches an of outdoor track racing or the fast smooth racing in an indoor velodrome |
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BigRobJef
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| Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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| No question large outdoor is the best for me, However small and indoors seems to suit you! |
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TREK
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| Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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Being able to look back now, I'am sort of pleased that I had the opportunity to ride both. Some of the history at the old tracks was awesome.
I think that sometimes there are limitation with small indoor Velodromes.
But then again indoor you don't have to worry about cancellation.
TREK
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Pocket Rocket
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| Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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| No question large outdoor is the best for me, However small and indoors seems to suit you! |
Calshot does seem to suit me, but I still think you can't beet Welwyn and Herne Hill, especially the bump in the back straight of Welwyn, i'll miss that bump when its re-surfaced  |
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De Rosa
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This is a bit like swimming pools isn't it! There is nothing better than an outdoor swimming pool on a fine summer's day - you just can't beat it. But when it comes down to the English climate the fact is that indoor tracks are more practical with no cancellations, year round cycling etc etc.
So I would like an indoor track with a sliding roof like The Millennium Stadium please. I just can't understand why the BCF haven't sorted this - it's a disgrace.  I am prepared to be flexible about the size just to be reasonable. 
PS Most of us only go to Halesowen for the BarBQ so good air extraction is vital. |
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Paul Barber
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| Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 9:49 am Post subject: |
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| Hey we need both - outdoor is great for summer - indoor great for winter |
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John McC
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| Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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| ...but I still think you can't beet Welwyn and Herne Hill, especially the bump in the back straight of Welwyn, I'll miss that bump when its re-surfaced |
You are having a laugh. The "dip" in the back straight is absolutely awful. Perhaps it affects 6'3" 13 stone riders a bit more than you, but the number of times I've been "thrown" going over it, I shan't miss it at all. 
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martin smith
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| Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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as with nottinghm, the bumps are only a disadvantage if you are not on the front...  they are there to stop the 13 stone blokes getting past you |
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Jeff
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| Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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Surely with Tracks dissappearing quicker than the rain forest it does'nt matter what track it is.
Racing indoors at Manchester is great, fast, smooth no headwind, no rain, but theres nothing better than a day spent soaking up the sun at an outdoor track.
Although many a day has been spent watching a track soak up the rain and many hours waiting for it to dry and then get wet again. |
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BigRobJef
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| Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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| John McC wrote: |
| Pocket Rocket wrote: |
| ...but I still think you can't beet Welwyn and Herne Hill, especially the bump in the back straight of Welwyn, I'll miss that bump when its re-surfaced |
You are having a laugh. The "dip" in the back straight is absolutely awful. Perhaps it affects 6'3" 13 stone riders a bit more than you, but the number of times I've been "thrown" going over it, I shan't miss it at all. |
He's only being whistful! |
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Coggy
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| Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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| I like them both ! |
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Jimmy Jazz
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| Leicester, 10pm under floodlights - Perfect... |
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varno
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murder trainer
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| Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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Just ride em both!!!!
There both kin great!!!! I rode the Superdrome in Adelaide last week,it was ace. Just the same as Manchester but with well dark season wood. V quick.... |
Anyone wanting to make it at the highest level has to know how to ride every sort of track, despite the tendancy towards 250 metre indoor tracks. Hyères is wood, 250 metres and outdoors. Many spoke well of Leicester but once Manchester was planned..........!
Fast or not if you don't know what to do, you'll still not win!
An interesting article in the Ouest-France newspaper today, covering a project to develop track riders mentions there are 17 existing tracks in Brittany alone, whilst there is a project to have a 250 metre indoor track. |
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Stuart
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| Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 8:32 am Post subject: |
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| varno wrote: |
Just ride em both!!!!
There both kin great!!!! I rode the Superdrome in Adelaide last week,it was ace. Just the same as Manchester but with well dark season wood. V quick.... |
Anyone wanting to make it at the highest level has to know how to ride every sort of track, despite the tendancy towards 250 metre indoor tracks. Hyères is wood, 250 metres and outdoors. Many spoke well of Leicester but once Manchester was planned..........!
Fast or not if you don't know what to do, you'll still not win!
An interesting article in the Ouest-France newspaper today, covering a project to develop track riders mentions there are 17 existing tracks in Brittany alone, whilst there is a project to have a 250 metre indoor track. |
Is that why the French have A B and C teams?
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murder trainer
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| Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 9:53 am Post subject: |
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| varno wrote: |
| Just ride em both!!!! |
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| Is that why the French have A B and C teams? |
Part of the "educational" system is for riders of all ages to mix their racing. At the moment, ie winter-time, there are "Popular Saturday" events for youngsters which attract something like 800 kids each weekend throughout the 4 centres in Brittany. As these youngsters grow and upgrade category they are encouraged to continue riding track, even if the emphasis is on road-racing.
The A,B and C teams one sees in different events is mainly to "blood" young riders, giving them the chance and experience of being part of a team of more experienced elders. |
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Billynobrakes
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| Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Many spoke well of Leicester but once Manchester was planned..........! |
I think Leicester is my favourite track I've ever ridden. The length at 330m was perfect, the 200m line was in the perfect spot for sprinting and the bends were wide enough to actually pass people on them1
Saying that though, it was outdoors which was fantastic in the summer on a beautiful hot day but absolutely crap as soon as it rained.
My perfect solution would be 330m indoor tracks with retractable roofs, surely that would please everyone???......OK well everyone that didn't have to pay for it then!
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