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| So how many of you guys actually witnessed what happened in the cafe yesterday? |
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| So how many of you guys actually witnessed what happened in the cafe yesterday? |
Photos or else it didn't happen  
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I can't understand why you wish to turn up at a cafe every week, sweaty, and wet - to sit around in your damp clothes for half an hour or so, only to go back outside in the cold - having cooled down somewhat whilst in a warm room - in your damp clothes, to start warming up again for the ride home   madness. leave the cafes alone and train properly. |
It was never intended to be a training run. Just a social ride.
Unfortunately riders get carried away are frightened to lose face so it became a cafe race. |
Simple solution then inint. Either don't go to a Cafe or just be strong and let those that want to burn up do that and organise those that want to be sensible. |
Eros used to be the patron/leader of this group. Whenever the pace increased/break went, he would always hold back and form a sensibly paced group which would invariably pick up the stragglers on the way to the cafe. Recent health problems have meant that he doesn't go on the run and nobody has taken over the role, so it's just become a free-for-all.
Virtually everyone who goes on the run knows what's going to happen. It's more of a chaingang with a cafe stop than a club run. People who want a steady ride don't go or accept that they'll be dropped on the first climb. People do seem to enjoy testing themselves against the best riders and i suspect that the run will continue.
We, the Sherwood CC, have withdrawn from leading the run and will hopefully have a more traditional club run instead. Of the 40 who go out on the existing run, only about 5 are Sherwood members anyway, so it's not really catering for our members needs.
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| Why's it called 'The Parrots'? |
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Will Scarlet
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| Why's it called 'The Parrots'? |
Because the host club are nicknamed the Parrots because of our yellow and green kit.
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I know a place near to the Limes Cafe that pride themselves on speedy service, friendly female (Some hot totty) staff,have outside seeting for the hot summer days. . . ..
McDonalds at Ollerton Island
Mrs Cee recomends the Latte and always enjoys seeing a few hot sweaty men in lycra on a saturday morning!!!!! |
Only problem is that Maccy D's stop serving breakfast at 10.30 and they don't do beans on toast or just toast. |
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| Why's it called 'The Parrots'? |
Because of our club colours, Green and yellow 
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| Thanks for the explanations. |
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| I can't understand why you wish to turn up at a cafe every week, sweaty, and wet - to sit around in your damp clothes for half an hour or so, only to go back outside in the cold - having cooled down somewhat whilst in a warm room - in your damp clothes, to start warming up again for the ride home madness. leave the cafes alone and train properly. |
Because club rides are social rides and not everyone wants to chat whilst on the bike when u should be concentrating on the road. I like the fact that my club stops at a cafe so i can sit down and be sociable with some of my fellow riders. If i want to train i'll use a circuit or go out on my own or use a turbo - God forbid.
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There you have it. The Saturday runs I used to go on were a leisurely affair, usually guys were either racing on a Sunday or doing a five or six hour training run so it was just a leg spinning exercise with a bit of banter and a coffee stop. The Lawnswood run to Bolton Abbey which I occasionally manage to get out on has similar problems with cafe racers, older stalwarts complaining that it was always meant to be a sociable run and a gentle introduction for younger riders and newcomers to bunch riding. It sounds like it is a pretty common problem.
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yeah but parrots saturdays is the world champs for some riders. yesterday it can't have been more than -2C all day and it was mental from the start. its normally mental only after 10-15 miles but it seemed Doris had more beans to burn off & no-one protested. it wouldn't have been so bad if it had waited for a while for everyone to warm back up before chucking it home after leaving the cafe.
on the way out we went down some proper narrow lanes with blind corners on slippy surfaces. going down there with such a big group was er....irresponsible (?) i rode near the front -daren't be near the back on those roads, but even when we came up to 4-5 horses in a group, there was hardly any slowing down. if you got seperated from the group & didn't know how to get to the cafe then its not very nice.
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And there is the answer to your problem. You need a patron to keep Doris in order or get him to do his own thing. Your description is not of a clubrun with a cafe stop but a poorly organised training run with pointless stop in the middle. |
Just wondering - do all or most of these riders race? i.e. enter bona fide road races?
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Sounds like it should be renamed the Clowns Run
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yeah but parrots saturdays is the world champs for some riders. yesterday it can't have been more than -2C all day and it was mental from the start. its normally mental only after 10-15 miles but it seemed Doris had more beans to burn off & no-one protested. it wouldn't have been so bad if it had waited for a while for everyone to warm back up before chucking it home after leaving the cafe.
on the way out we went down some proper narrow lanes with blind corners on slippy surfaces. going down there with such a big group was er....irresponsible (?) i rode near the front -daren't be near the back on those roads, but even when we came up to 4-5 horses in a group, there was hardly any slowing down. if you got seperated from the group & didn't know how to get to the cafe then its not very nice.
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And there is the answer to your problem. You need a patron to keep Doris in order or get him to do his own thing. Your description is not of a clubrun with a cafe stop but a poorly organised training run with pointless stop in the middle. |
Just wondering - do all or most of these riders race? i.e. enter bona fide road races? |
Take a wild guess 
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It has always been a good club run with large numbers and thoughtful riding making it a safe group to ride in.
There always has and always will be opinionated riders and when not in cycling kit are also respectful humans as well.
The said lady in this case was very rude and abrupt for no reason what so ever.
They dont like us! but for the sake of other people if anyone has a problem with the place dont go!!! Simple.
Traditionaly there alwys has been a cafe stop and its good fun!
Hopefuly we can still continue to go there despite our weird ways |
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It has always been a good club run with large numbers and thoughtful riding making it a safe group to ride in.
There always has and always will be opinionated riders and when not in cycling kit are also respectful humans as well.
The said lady in this case was very rude and abrupt for no reason what so ever.
They dont like us! but for the sake of other people if anyone has a problem with the place dont go!!! Simple.
Traditionaly there alwys has been a cafe stop and its good fun!
Hopefuly we can still continue to go there despite our weird ways |
From an outsiders perspective, I have never been on a parrot run but been travelling in the opposite direction to you more than a few times, also had the displeasure of being in sedgebrook at the same time as you.
All over the road rabble who apparently have very little regard for other road users as they feel they have safety in numbers, just the way to endear car drivers- err not, always some poor soul miles out the back looking hopelessly lost, not a good introduction to club cycling really.
Then in the cafe, way too many of you - take the place over typically buying 1 cup of tea between 3 of you, whilst openly eating your own food.
What the F do you expect? I am not suprised they sent you away with a flea in your ear, somehow they still welcome certain other clubs with open arms why is that?
Sort yourselves out, get some responsible ride captains, talk to the cafes, stagger arrivals, hey presto everyone will be happy, hardly rocket science is it?
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| I can't understand why you wish to turn up at a cafe every week, sweaty, and wet - to sit around in your damp clothes for half an hour or so, only to go back outside in the cold - having cooled down somewhat whilst in a warm room - in your damp clothes, to start warming up again for the ride home madness. leave the cafes alone and train properly. |
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It has always been a good club run with large numbers and thoughtful riding making it a safe group to ride in.
There always has and always will be opinionated riders and when not in cycling kit are also respectful humans as well.
The said lady in this case was very rude and abrupt for no reason what so ever.
They dont like us! but for the sake of other people if anyone has a problem with the place dont go!!! Simple.
Traditionaly there alwys has been a cafe stop and its good fun!
Hopefuly we can still continue to go there despite our weird ways |
From an outsiders perspective, I have never been on a parrot run but been travelling in the opposite direction to you more than a few times, also had the displeasure of being in sedgebrook at the same time as you.
All over the road rabble who apparently have very little regard for other road users as they feel they have safety in numbers, just the way to endear car drivers- err not, always some poor soul miles out the back looking hopelessly lost, not a good introduction to club cycling really.
Then in the cafe, way too many of you - take the place over typically buying 1 cup of tea between 3 of you, whilst openly eating your own food.
What the F do you expect? I am not suprised they sent you away with a flea in your ear, somehow they still welcome certain other clubs with open arms why is that?
Sort yourselves out, get some responsible ride captains, talk to the cafes, stagger arrivals, hey presto everyone will be happy, hardly rocket science is it? |
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| If people want to have a bit of a burn up (so long as it's not too much all over the road) and a cafe stop then why not. It may not be optimum training but it's supposed to be enjoyable. Not many of us are ever going to earn a living at it and 30 minutes for a coffee and some cake once a week isn't exactly living it large. |
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yeah but parrots saturdays is the world champs for some riders. yesterday it can't have been more than -2C all day and it was mental from the start. its normally mental only after 10-15 miles but it seemed Doris had more beans to burn off & no-one protested. it wouldn't have been so bad if it had waited for a while for everyone to warm back up before chucking it home after leaving the cafe.
on the way out we went down some proper narrow lanes with blind corners on slippy surfaces. going down there with such a big group was er....irresponsible (?) i rode near the front -daren't be near the back on those roads, but even when we came up to 4-5 horses in a group, there was hardly any slowing down. if you got seperated from the group & didn't know how to get to the cafe then its not very nice.
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And there is the answer to your problem. You need a patron to keep Doris in order or get him to do his own thing. Your description is not of a clubrun with a cafe stop but a poorly organised training run with pointless stop in the middle. |
Just wondering - do all or most of these riders race? i.e. enter bona fide road races? |
No.
Why do people think that cafes should welcome and cater for folks that bring their own food and dont not want to spend more than £1.50 on tea and a slab of cake!?!?!
What a cracking business plan that would be to cater for the likes of your average cyclist! £40 spent between 30 cyclists!!
Thats why we go to Bleasby, pay over the odds, but listen to some nice music, and have some old boy telling you how he was shot at by in excess of 25 Germans. |
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| Dave Wilkes wrote: |
| mho wrote: |
| flash! wrote: |
yeah but parrots saturdays is the world champs for some riders. yesterday it can't have been more than -2C all day and it was mental from the start. its normally mental only after 10-15 miles but it seemed Doris had more beans to burn off & no-one protested. it wouldn't have been so bad if it had waited for a while for everyone to warm back up before chucking it home after leaving the cafe.
on the way out we went down some proper narrow lanes with blind corners on slippy surfaces. going down there with such a big group was er....irresponsible (?) i rode near the front -daren't be near the back on those roads, but even when we came up to 4-5 horses in a group, there was hardly any slowing down. if you got seperated from the group & didn't know how to get to the cafe then its not very nice.
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And there is the answer to your problem. You need a patron to keep Doris in order or get him to do his own thing. Your description is not of a clubrun with a cafe stop but a poorly organised training run with pointless stop in the middle. |
Just wondering - do all or most of these riders race? i.e. enter bona fide road races? |
No.
Why do people think that cafes should welcome and cater for folks that bring their own food and dont not want to spend more than £1.50 on tea and a slab of cake!?!?!
What a cracking business plan that would be to cater for the likes of your average cyclist! £40 spent between 30 cyclists!!
Thats why we go to Bleasby, pay over the odds, but listen to some nice music, and have some old boy telling you how he was shot at by in excess of 25 Germans. |
Yer, I like Bleasby.
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