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just ride for fun for a few weeks |
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Julian Cat 3 Groupie

Joined: 23 May 2003 Posts: 24
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:57 pm Post subject: over training/racing |
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is it wise to carry on racing when your always knackered???  |
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joxster World Champ

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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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Where is the option to eat pies and drink beer?  _________________ When offered the choice between the path of Desire and the path of Virtue I chose the path marked Diversion.
Programming is like 5ex, one mistake and you have to support it for life. |
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Rob of the Og E, Gold
Joined: 12 Jan 2005 Posts: 2256
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 2:04 pm Post subject: Re: over training/racing |
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Julian wrote: |
is it wise to carry on racing when your always knackered???  |
It depends. I've had times when I've been seriously wrecked and the doctor has told me to take a complete rest, but this is generally due to 'other factors' - work, exams, family problems while still trying to train like a maniac.
The usual knackeredness is more often just feeling 'burnt-out' and a bit of riding for fun is the cure. |
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PNuT Moderator


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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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joxster wrote: |
Where is the option to eat pies and drink beer?  |
does that make any difference whether you are tired or not? _________________ PNuT, who could forget PNuT
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joxster World Champ

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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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PNuT wrote: |
joxster wrote: |
Where is the option to eat pies and drink beer?  |
does that make any difference whether you are tired or not? |
Yes, everyone knows the stresses of over-beering will limit your ability to over-pie. Leaving you having to compensate by over-kebabing. _________________ When offered the choice between the path of Desire and the path of Virtue I chose the path marked Diversion.
Programming is like 5ex, one mistake and you have to support it for life. |
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PNuT Moderator


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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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i believe this may be a serious thread..... so i mite delete you  _________________ PNuT, who could forget PNuT
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John McC Moderator


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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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PNuT wrote: |
i believe this may be a serious thread..... so i mite delete you  |
About time someone did  _________________ John McClelland's victory in the motor paced event with Derek Marloe on the derny was a thing of beauty (Oldmanof) |
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qcscmh World Champ

Joined: 06 Jun 2002 Posts: 14071 Location: Not on the Bike
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:24 pm Post subject: Re: over training/racing |
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Julian wrote: |
is it wise to carry on racing when your always knackered???  |
maybe its to much training not racing, cut down on training if your doing a lot. But not much information to go on.
how much training are you doing and what type/intensity ?
what is your current state of fitness ?
what discipline and distances are you riding over ?
are you recovering from an illness ? |
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Andrew Jackson E, Gold

Joined: 06 Jan 2004 Posts: 3128 Location: Barton under Needwood
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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I like to have an easy week every one in four, just riding steady or have a few days completely off. Helps to keep you fresh through the season and allows you to focus on the three weeks on. _________________ You can't polish a turd |
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PNuT Moderator


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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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i am actually a believer that your body will adapt to what ever you do in time.....
i personally dont believe in the burn out theory _________________ PNuT, who could forget PNuT
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bonger Guest
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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What is burnt out? Like a firework or something? I think it's alot easier to feel "burned out" (mental) than to actually achieve physical "burn out". |
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PNuT Moderator


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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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bonger wrote: |
What is burnt out? Like a firework or something? I think it's alot easier to feel "burned out" (mental) than to actually achieve physical "burn out". |
dont know craig.... its only something ive heard cyclist talk about..... my previous sport i used to swap between road track & cross country all year around as well as growing.....
i can understand athletes wh have aided help having problems as they are taking the body to places where it cant reach naturally _________________ PNuT, who could forget PNuT
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Julian Cat 3 Groupie

Joined: 23 May 2003 Posts: 24
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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intresting guys!!!
So would any one go and ride the Girvin this easter if they was on there knee's ???
or stay at home and get some rest??
Just a thought.  |
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Lee World Champ

Joined: 12 Jul 2002 Posts: 12612 Location: Hertfordshire
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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bonger wrote: |
What is burnt out? Like a firework or something? I think it's alot easier to feel "burned out" (mental) than to actually achieve physical "burn out". |
Disagree, 10 years ago I was quite keen and took racing quite serious. I had a girlfriend that worked till 10 on an evening - so i used to train or do a club tt, 3 or 4 nights a week - meet her from work, get home about 1 or 2 in the morning, get up for work about 7, work including a commute for 10 hours and then do the same again. I used to have a lie in on a saturday. Had a great year by my standards till about august then I was creeping, and couldn't get enough sleep - I was wrecked 6 months of only getting about 75% of the sleep I needed totaly burnt me out. Not good at all. The actual aftermath was months of doing nothing and last year was the firstr time i've even got close to the times I was doing then.
Physical burn out is very real but quite hard to achieve - it creeps up on you. Mantally - I think it's more staleness than burn out. _________________
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But, on reflection, you're probably right... |
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PNuT Moderator


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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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you are talking about something different, racing & training that hard requires plenty of rest & sleep.....
if i stayed up till 2 am & had to be at work by 7 am i would be a wreck within a week.... its why i go to bed @ 9 pm
the old saying burning the candle @ both ends does have a lot of truth innit for most(not all) but this isnt what i assume most cyclists would class as burn out? _________________ PNuT, who could forget PNuT
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cyclingscott E, Bronze
Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 290 Location: Surrey
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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What would you class as burn out then? _________________ "Wise men talk because they have something to say. Fools talk because they have to say something."
-- Plato
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PNuT Moderator


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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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cyclingscott wrote: |
What would you class as burn out then? |
too much too soon is my best guess... other than that i personally dont believe there is such a thing _________________ PNuT, who could forget PNuT
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bonger Guest
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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What most people call burn out, i would describe as a lack of motivation. |
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murder trainer E, Silver
Joined: 09 Jan 2004 Posts: 1102
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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 10:07 am Post subject: |
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cyclingscott wrote: |
What would you class as burn out then? |
"Burn-out" is a term used when a rider is saturated both physically and mentally from constantly competing and training. Frequently occurs around end of May when some 40 or so events have already been completed. Two weeks is usually sufficient time for regeneration, although some like Laurent Jalabert used 4 weeks without racing. |
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Badger E, Gold
Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 2822 Location: Trying not to say 'basically'
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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 11:40 am Post subject: |
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Problem with us bikies is we race alot. Alot of us will race every weekend plus club time trials in the week. No other sportsmen compete as much. Marathon runners select a few marathons a year and triathletes will only do a handful of triathlons each year (maybe because it's so expensive ). It's a culture thing; we race to get form.
It's no wonder some of us get knackered. _________________ mug source code table remote plate magazine gel |
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