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carry on racing when your knackered
carry on racing
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stop all together
5%
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just ride for fun for a few weeks
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:57 pm    Post subject: over training/racing Reply with quote

is it wise to carry on racing when your always knackered??? Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where is the option to eat pies and drink beer? Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 2:04 pm    Post subject: Re: over training/racing Reply with quote

Julian wrote:
is it wise to carry on racing when your always knackered??? Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed


It depends. I've had times when I've been seriously wrecked and the doctor has told me to take a complete rest, but this is generally due to 'other factors' - work, exams, family problems while still trying to train like a maniac.

The usual knackeredness is more often just feeling 'burnt-out' and a bit of riding for fun is the cure.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Where is the option to eat pies and drink beer? Wink


does that make any difference whether you are tired or not?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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joxster wrote:
Where is the option to eat pies and drink beer? Wink


does that make any difference whether you are tired or not?


Yes, everyone knows the stresses of over-beering will limit your ability to over-pie. Leaving you having to compensate by over-kebabing.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i believe this may be a serious thread..... so i mite delete you Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i believe this may be a serious thread..... so i mite delete you Wink

About time someone did Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:24 pm    Post subject: Re: over training/racing Reply with quote

Julian wrote:
is it wise to carry on racing when your always knackered??? Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed


maybe its to much training not racing, cut down on training if your doing a lot. But not much information to go on.

how much training are you doing and what type/intensity ?
what is your current state of fitness ?
what discipline and distances are you riding over ?
are you recovering from an illness ?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like to have an easy week every one in four, just riding steady or have a few days completely off. Helps to keep you fresh through the season and allows you to focus on the three weeks on.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i am actually a believer that your body will adapt to what ever you do in time.....

i personally dont believe in the burn out theory
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is burnt out? Like a firework or something? I think it's alot easier to feel "burned out" (mental) than to actually achieve physical "burn out".
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What is burnt out? Like a firework or something? I think it's alot easier to feel "burned out" (mental) than to actually achieve physical "burn out".


dont know craig.... its only something ive heard cyclist talk about..... my previous sport i used to swap between road track & cross country all year around as well as growing.....

i can understand athletes wh have aided help having problems as they are taking the body to places where it cant reach naturally
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

intresting guys!!!

So would any one go and ride the Girvin this easter if they was on there knee's ???

or stay at home and get some rest??

Just a thought. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What is burnt out? Like a firework or something? I think it's alot easier to feel "burned out" (mental) than to actually achieve physical "burn out".


Disagree, 10 years ago I was quite keen and took racing quite serious. I had a girlfriend that worked till 10 on an evening - so i used to train or do a club tt, 3 or 4 nights a week - meet her from work, get home about 1 or 2 in the morning, get up for work about 7, work including a commute for 10 hours and then do the same again. I used to have a lie in on a saturday. Had a great year by my standards till about august then I was creeping, and couldn't get enough sleep - I was wrecked 6 months of only getting about 75% of the sleep I needed totaly burnt me out. Not good at all. The actual aftermath was months of doing nothing and last year was the firstr time i've even got close to the times I was doing then.

Physical burn out is very real but quite hard to achieve - it creeps up on you. Mantally - I think it's more staleness than burn out.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you are talking about something different, racing & training that hard requires plenty of rest & sleep.....

if i stayed up till 2 am & had to be at work by 7 am i would be a wreck within a week.... its why i go to bed @ 9 pm Wink

the old saying burning the candle @ both ends does have a lot of truth innit for most(not all) but this isnt what i assume most cyclists would class as burn out?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What would you class as burn out then?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cyclingscott wrote:
What would you class as burn out then?


too much too soon is my best guess... other than that i personally dont believe there is such a thing
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What most people call burn out, i would describe as a lack of motivation.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cyclingscott wrote:
What would you class as burn out then?


"Burn-out" is a term used when a rider is saturated both physically and mentally from constantly competing and training. Frequently occurs around end of May when some 40 or so events have already been completed. Two weeks is usually sufficient time for regeneration, although some like Laurent Jalabert used 4 weeks without racing.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Problem with us bikies is we race alot. Alot of us will race every weekend plus club time trials in the week. No other sportsmen compete as much. Marathon runners select a few marathons a year and triathletes will only do a handful of triathlons each year (maybe because it's so expensive Wink ). It's a culture thing; we race to get form.

It's no wonder some of us get knackered.
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