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Crescenzo
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According to good old Duffers whilst watching Ghent-Wevelgem young cyclists should avoid time trials.
It's not like we get any medals out of it.
All those come from the track/road riders.
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we don't encourage kids to smoke or drink, so why encourage other bad habits?
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It's up to them, but I think a balanced *CENSORED* of road and TT is healthy.
There's a crying shame of an example in my local club, the (probably) very talented son, now a junior, of a very talented roadie who's turned tester in his dotage has declared himself purely a tester. I blame the parents  |
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You should encourage them to try ALL aspects of the sport - road, track, time trials, MTB, even BMX and downhill, etc. Then let them decide what ones they want to continue in. If that includes time trials, then great. If not, then great. But I would not ever put them off doing them. I think doing a mixture of the disciplines is more (mentally) healthy than only one.
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Young cyclists should try all serious disciplines, i.e. road, track and time trials, so see what they enjoy, are good at, and for good experience.
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My old man's a tester and that is all I was encourage/allowed to ride when I was younger. I was in my early 20's before I rode a Road Race, mid 20's before I rode a cross and 32 before I raced on the track. And it's something I really regret.
I grew up around TT's, I've ridden them for over half my life, I've organised them and I'm in a club who's primary motivation is TT's. And if I had kid would I let them near them - No way. The sport will, like all things that refuse to adapt to the times die. And while the statistics proove it's not that dangerous, the perception of it is. I mean who would train or ride for fun on a dual carriageway? Compare it to FNTL or a WMCXL event and the amounts of kids having fun there? Where are you more likely to learn the fun of riding a bike and competing for that reason?
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| Lee wrote: |
| I grew up around TT's, I've ridden them for over half my life, I've organised them and I'm in a club who's primary motivation is TT's. And if I had kid would I let them near them - No way. The sport will, like all things that refuse to adapt to the times die. And while the statistics proove it's not that dangerous, the perception of it is. I mean who would train or ride for fun on a dual carriageway? Compare it to FNTL or a WMCXL event and the amounts of kids having fun there? Where are you more likely to learn the fun of riding a bike and competing for that reason? |
Don't be such a drama queen. Racing on dual carriageways is safer than my daily commute in north London. People need some experience of riding on busy roads to give them the skills needed to survive on today's roads.
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dual carriage way... i like that idea  |
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| I grew up around TT's, I've ridden them for over half my life, I've organised them and I'm in a club who's primary motivation is TT's. And if I had kid would I let them near them - No way. The sport will, like all things that refuse to adapt to the times die. And while the statistics proove it's not that dangerous, the perception of it is. I mean who would train or ride for fun on a dual carriageway? Compare it to FNTL or a WMCXL event and the amounts of kids having fun there? Where are you more likely to learn the fun of riding a bike and competing for that reason? |
Don't be such a drama queen. Racing on dual carriageways is safer than my daily commute in north London. People some experience of riding on busy roads to give them the skills needed to survive on today's roads. |
Queen will do, no need for the drama.
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| I am not bothered either way. It's a very poorly structured question for a poll and therefore the results of it will be next to useless. |
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nothing dangerous about tt's on dual carriageways unless your  . only bit than can be dangerous is at islands. |
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| nothing dangerous about tt's on dual carriageways unless your . only bit than can be dangerous is at islands. |
Roundabouts are not the most dangerous bits... Spear-point junctions are worse...
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its actually the tw@s behind those steering wheels that are dangerous 
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| its actually the tw@s behind those steering wheels that are dangerous |
Couldn't agree More Mr PNuT 
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| its actually the tw@s behind those steering wheels that are dangerous |
Couldn't agree More Mr PNuT |
Good point. This is very true.
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well i was planning on concentrating on 10mile tt this year.......................
and hoping to go under 25mins but dosnt sound like a good idea 
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well i was planning on concentrating on 10mile tt this year.......................
and hoping to go under 25mins but dosnt sound like a good idea |
Why doesn't it? You don't give a reason... cos I can't think of one.
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My old man's a tester and that is all I was encourage/allowed to ride when I was younger. I was in my early 20's before I rode a Road Race, mid 20's before I rode a cross and 32 before I raced on the track. And it's something I really regret.
I grew up around TT's, I've ridden them for over half my life, I've organised them and I'm in a club who's primary motivation is TT's. And if I had kid would I let them near them - No way. The sport will, like all things that refuse to adapt to the times die. And while the statistics proove it's not that dangerous, the perception of it is. I mean who would train or ride for fun on a dual carriageway? Compare it to FNTL or a WMCXL event and the amounts of kids having fun there? Where are you more likely to learn the fun of riding a bike and competing for that reason? |
well there is why........its dangerous and plus u get thrashed by seniors and vetrans destroying your confidence
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My old man's a tester and that is all I was encourage/allowed to ride when I was younger. I was in my early 20's before I rode a Road Race, mid 20's before I rode a cross and 32 before I raced on the track. And it's something I really regret.
I grew up around TT's, I've ridden them for over half my life, I've organised them and I'm in a club who's primary motivation is TT's. And if I had kid would I let them near them - No way. The sport will, like all things that refuse to adapt to the times die. And while the statistics proove it's not that dangerous, the perception of it is. I mean who would train or ride for fun on a dual carriageway? Compare it to FNTL or a WMCXL event and the amounts of kids having fun there? Where are you more likely to learn the fun of riding a bike and competing for that reason? |
well there is why........its dangerous and plus u get thrashed by seniors and vetrans destroying your confidence |
It's not dangerous. Don't let anyone fool you with that. Well, no more so that riding your bike normally. Seriously.
As for seniors beating you, then I think that would be expected of them. If you rode in their road races you would get soundly beaten too. If they didn't, then you are likely to beat them in a time trial anyway, so there is nothing to worry about.
What you would need to concentrate on is how quickly you can improve against the older riders, and can you beat riders of the same age as you (or same ability at the beginning of the year).
Just do it.
Paul
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