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Campag or Shimano
Campag
53%
 53%  [ 38 ]
Shimano
46%
 46%  [ 33 ]
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

campag is for people who dont puncture in timetrials Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ventoux110700 wrote:

Launching an attack down the other side of Alpe d'Huez Cool


seems well worth it to me then
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shimano is for people that want to pay less for lighter componants with the added bonus of a stiffer chainset, it's up to you.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of each, please.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 2:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Campag/Shimano Reply with quote

Martin Booth wrote:
If your into posing then its got to be Shimano every time.But if its practicality,durability,functionality,design and style.It just has to be Campag,. every time.


Confused

The only thing I would say is that my 6 year old Chorus gears never needed adjusting, but my new Dura Ace needs constant fiddling to get it to work properly.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Off topic but the 1989 Tour de France was won on a Mavic groupset
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 4:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Campag/Shimano Reply with quote

Matteo wrote:
Martin Booth wrote:
If your into posing then its got to be Shimano every time.But if its practicality,durability,functionality,design and style.It just has to be Campag,. every time.


Confused

The only thing I would say is that my 6 year old Chorus gears never needed adjusting, but my new Dura Ace needs constant fiddling to get it to work properly.


a formula 1 car needs constant fiddling to get it to work properly, meanwhile more modest road cars need 1 service a year. which one is the finest piece of engineering?! Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lucho wrote:
Off topic but the 1989 Tour de France was won on a Mavic groupset


And the 1983 Tour de France was won on a Spidel groupset, which was a combine of French manufacturers such as Stronglight and Simplex. The Renault team used it for 1 year after Fignon's Campag BB axle snapped in the 1982 Blois-Chaville.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex Coutts was out on the Edinburgh chaingang on Thursday and the Ultegra 10 speed groupset on his Flanders team bike is totally s*agged halfway through the season. Having had both I would say that Shimano has the edge with performance but Campag is without doubt better quality and more durable. The campag gearchange is just 'different' , ie more clunky than Shimano and not necessarily any worse.

Dura Ace is great stuff but Campag is much better further down the range. There is a huge gap between Dura Ace and Ultegra.

Campag have never got the hang of pedals like Shimano but their wheels are much better.

The oldest cycling argument there is with no right answer and it will probably always swing one way and then the other. If Campag suss this electric stuff they will probably get the edge again maybe ?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree about the durability of Campag. My old training bike has had the same Veloce groupset on since I bought it and still runs fine.

I just don't like puching the small lever hard to change the rear mech down. It's easy to miss under stress.

Also, on Shimano, you can brake, and downshift the rear mech at the same time - great for that late braking, early acceleration out of corners. (not that I do much of that, but on occasion...)
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still use a campag Nuevo Record rear mech that's been on my bike since 1984. Extremely reliable and still looks damn good into the bargain. Campag really have style!

But to be fair, Shimon Dura-Ace attempted to break new ground in innovation in a wat Campag did not. On Ch4 Paul Sherwen interviewed Steve Bauer at the 1987 Tour de France Prologue in pre Glasnost Berlin about his Look Kevlar and the Shimano cranks arms were kevlar glued and pinned amd these cranks never went into mass production but they were quite ahead of their/there time and risky considering the glue between carbon fibre and alloy was unreliable at the time. My friend works in carbon fibre tech and he told me that glueing the stuff was tricky in the 1980s. Campag didn't carbon till when? late 1990s 2000?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ShimaNO

(apart from the pedals)
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I voted Campag, but I am saying nothing as it only ends up as an arguement. All my road bikes are Campag throughout
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Campag everytime, except on the mountain bike where I couldn't bring myself to put on a super record rear mech, so it had to be Dura ace.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shimano on the road, campag on the track. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Animal wrote:
I just don't like puching the small lever hard to change the rear mech down. It's easy to miss under stress.


I voted Campag, but that can be a problem. Going for a sprint, you punch the lever to go up a gear, and it's easy to go up two (or three) and get hopelessly bogged down. The bottom-of-the-range Xenon levers I've got on my training bike only shift one cog at a time, whatever you do though.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Animal wrote:
I just don't like puching the small lever hard to change the rear mech down. It's easy to miss under stress.


I voted Campag, but that can be a problem. Going for a sprint, you punch the lever to go up a gear, and it's easy to go up two (or three) and get hopelessly bogged down. The bottom-of-the-range Xenon levers I've got on my training bike only shift one cog at a time, whatever you do though.


How can voting Campag be a problem? You just 'click' your mouse and 'bobs your uncle', done. You've cast your vote. Confused

Seriously, though, handlebar-end changers (do they still use them for cyclo-cross?) were favoured by a lot of sprinters in years gone by so that they could change up when sprinting (such as Belgian stars Rik Van Looy, Willy Vannitsen and our own Pete Matthews). Other sprinters reckoned to select their gear before the sprint started (including Dave Bedwell who, as far as I know, always favoured down tube levers and he won a fair number of sprints in his time).

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PNuT wrote:
ive been trying this stuff out & its crap



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

erudite pete wrote:
One of each, please.


Think carefully Peter.....

Surely got to be Shimano?
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