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PNuT Moderator
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:31 am Post subject: |
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campag is for people who dont puncture in timetrials _________________ PNuT, who could forget PNuT
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PNuT Moderator
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:32 am Post subject: |
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Ventoux110700 wrote: |
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seems well worth it to me then _________________ PNuT, who could forget PNuT
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bonger Guest
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 8:36 am Post subject: |
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Shimano is for people that want to pay less for lighter componants with the added bonus of a stiffer chainset, it's up to you. |
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Adam Div 1 Pro
Joined: 22 Jan 2004 Posts: 7258 Location: London
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erudite pete E, Gold
Joined: 12 Apr 2004 Posts: 2312 Location: Cambridge
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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One of each, please. |
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Matteo E, Gold
Joined: 23 May 2003 Posts: 2640
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 2:59 pm Post subject: Re: Campag/Shimano |
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Martin Booth wrote: |
If your into posing then its got to be Shimano every time.But if its practicality,durability,functionality,design and style.It just has to be Campag,. every time. |
The only thing I would say is that my 6 year old Chorus gears never needed adjusting, but my new Dura Ace needs constant fiddling to get it to work properly. _________________ http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Matteomjb |
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Lucho E, Bronze
Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 477
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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Off topic but the 1989 Tour de France was won on a Mavic groupset |
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kitch E, Bronze
Joined: 11 Nov 2004 Posts: 426
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 4:41 pm Post subject: Re: Campag/Shimano |
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Matteo wrote: |
Martin Booth wrote: |
If your into posing then its got to be Shimano every time.But if its practicality,durability,functionality,design and style.It just has to be Campag,. every time. |
The only thing I would say is that my 6 year old Chorus gears never needed adjusting, but my new Dura Ace needs constant fiddling to get it to work properly. |
a formula 1 car needs constant fiddling to get it to work properly, meanwhile more modest road cars need 1 service a year. which one is the finest piece of engineering?! _________________ I am my favorite rider... |
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Matteo E, Gold
Joined: 23 May 2003 Posts: 2640
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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Lucho wrote: |
Off topic but the 1989 Tour de France was won on a Mavic groupset |
And the 1983 Tour de France was won on a Spidel groupset, which was a combine of French manufacturers such as Stronglight and Simplex. The Renault team used it for 1 year after Fignon's Campag BB axle snapped in the 1982 Blois-Chaville. _________________ http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Matteomjb |
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stalwart E, Silver
Joined: 22 Jun 2004 Posts: 1098 Location: Edinburgh
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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Alex Coutts was out on the Edinburgh chaingang on Thursday and the Ultegra 10 speed groupset on his Flanders team bike is totally s*agged halfway through the season. Having had both I would say that Shimano has the edge with performance but Campag is without doubt better quality and more durable. The campag gearchange is just 'different' , ie more clunky than Shimano and not necessarily any worse.
Dura Ace is great stuff but Campag is much better further down the range. There is a huge gap between Dura Ace and Ultegra.
Campag have never got the hang of pedals like Shimano but their wheels are much better.
The oldest cycling argument there is with no right answer and it will probably always swing one way and then the other. If Campag suss this electric stuff they will probably get the edge again maybe ? _________________ You never lose class, only form. |
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Animal E, Silver
Joined: 19 Oct 2002 Posts: 1867 Location: East Notts
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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I agree about the durability of Campag. My old training bike has had the same Veloce groupset on since I bought it and still runs fine.
I just don't like puching the small lever hard to change the rear mech down. It's easy to miss under stress.
Also, on Shimano, you can brake, and downshift the rear mech at the same time - great for that late braking, early acceleration out of corners. (not that I do much of that, but on occasion...) _________________ I don't enjoy golf. BAN IT. |
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Lucho E, Bronze
Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 477
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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I still use a campag Nuevo Record rear mech that's been on my bike since 1984. Extremely reliable and still looks damn good into the bargain. Campag really have style!
But to be fair, Shimon Dura-Ace attempted to break new ground in innovation in a wat Campag did not. On Ch4 Paul Sherwen interviewed Steve Bauer at the 1987 Tour de France Prologue in pre Glasnost Berlin about his Look Kevlar and the Shimano cranks arms were kevlar glued and pinned amd these cranks never went into mass production but they were quite ahead of their/there time and risky considering the glue between carbon fibre and alloy was unreliable at the time. My friend works in carbon fibre tech and he told me that glueing the stuff was tricky in the 1980s. Campag didn't carbon till when? late 1990s 2000? |
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Badger E, Gold
Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 2822 Location: Trying not to say 'basically'
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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ShimaNO
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Megman Div 2 Pro
Joined: 11 Jul 2003 Posts: 5786 Location: Not in Lich any more
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 7:05 am Post subject: |
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I voted Campag, but I am saying nothing as it only ends up as an arguement. All my road bikes are Campag throughout |
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joxster World Champ
Joined: 05 May 2004 Posts: 11229 Location: Barfly, buy me a drink and I'll tell you a story
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 7:26 am Post subject: |
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Campag everytime, except on the mountain bike where I couldn't bring myself to put on a super record rear mech, so it had to be Dura ace. _________________ When offered the choice between the path of Desire and the path of Virtue I chose the path marked Diversion.
Programming is like 5ex, one mistake and you have to support it for life. |
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Billy Boy T de F Winner
Joined: 11 Aug 2003 Posts: 30726 Location: Not Aylesbury
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 9:55 am Post subject: |
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Shimano on the road, campag on the track. _________________ "Well done, you are 100% absolutely without a shadow of a doubt spot-bollock-on correct." - Tucker
"Eating is not for wimps" - coal miner
"most of us don't have your brilliance." - John McC |
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Birdman Cat 2 Groupie
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 87
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:44 am Post subject: |
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Animal wrote: |
I just don't like puching the small lever hard to change the rear mech down. It's easy to miss under stress. |
I voted Campag, but that can be a problem. Going for a sprint, you punch the lever to go up a gear, and it's easy to go up two (or three) and get hopelessly bogged down. The bottom-of-the-range Xenon levers I've got on my training bike only shift one cog at a time, whatever you do though. |
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Zeco2 E, Gold
Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 2190 Location: Prickwillow
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:52 am Post subject: |
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Birdman wrote: |
Animal wrote: |
I just don't like puching the small lever hard to change the rear mech down. It's easy to miss under stress. |
I voted Campag, but that can be a problem. Going for a sprint, you punch the lever to go up a gear, and it's easy to go up two (or three) and get hopelessly bogged down. The bottom-of-the-range Xenon levers I've got on my training bike only shift one cog at a time, whatever you do though. |
How can voting Campag be a problem? You just 'click' your mouse and 'bobs your uncle', done. You've cast your vote.
Seriously, though, handlebar-end changers (do they still use them for cyclo-cross?) were favoured by a lot of sprinters in years gone by so that they could change up when sprinting (such as Belgian stars Rik Van Looy, Willy Vannitsen and our own Pete Matthews). Other sprinters reckoned to select their gear before the sprint started (including Dave Bedwell who, as far as I know, always favoured down tube levers and he won a fair number of sprints in his time).
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Windy Guest
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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the things you can do with Photoshop. |
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kylie World Champ
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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erudite pete wrote: |
One of each, please. |
Think carefully Peter.....
Surely got to be Shimano? _________________ I kissed a girl and I liked it.
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