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Flabio Chubbolinni
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 Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 5:19 pm Post subject: David Millar? |
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Just thinking that it's only 10 months till David Millar can race again. Has anyone seen him out "getting the miles in" ?
I think the best way for him to make a comeback would be the Hour record. We could all show our support for the guy by showing up and it would prove to any would be Team that he still has what it takes to be World Class!
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Steve D-T
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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| My views on DM have been well documented - and moderated - on here before. Turn out for to see him do the hour for sure, but lets all turn our backs on him as he rides round. Liar & cheat - good riddance. |
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PNuT
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Lee
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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| i spoke to him the other day... |
Is he joining API and going for the BAR then? 
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digger
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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Will David Millar ride for a Protour Team in 2006?
I hope so!
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Roy Gardiner
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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| ...Turn out for to see him do the hour for sure, but lets all turn our backs on him as he rides round. Liar & cheat - good riddance. |
I don't know about you, but in my case if past misdeeds couldn't be paid for, underlined and finished with I'd be in a sorry state. I say let him back; he's no worse than a majority of his professional colleagues anyway.
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LukePiewalker
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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| As long as Richard Viwank can still make a career on the back of professional cycling, David Millar is small beer..... |
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De Rosa
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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| I thought the new rule was that after you come back from a doping offence you can't get onto a Pro Tour team for 2 years? |
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ajay
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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I think Millar's exempt from that because he was caught before it came into effect??
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Lucho
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| sXe wrote: |
| My views on DM have been well documented - and moderated - on here before. Turn out for to see him do the hour for sure, but lets all turn our backs on him as he rides round. Liar & cheat - good riddance. |
Yeah, and what are your qualifications for your insight? You obviously have been racing mainland Europe and at David Millar, Robert Millar level as an amatuer and also on a team like cofidis where Vuelta organisers say they'll refuse the team without David Millar , you been in a Pro Tour team as well?
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bonger
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Fair enough *CENSORED* use is very common at the highest level of the sport but please explain why someone that doesn't like or support this is a prat and why someone that thinks it's ok to cheat not a prat? |
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Lucho
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Fair enough *CENSORED* use is very common at the highest level of the sport but please explain why someone that doesn't like or support this is a prat and why someone that thinks it's ok to cheat not a prat? |
How about...HGH and EPO. Effective dope testing for these methods of doping was over a decade behind the start of use of them..and you are telling us that youths who graduate up through the amateur ranks, who forfeit their education, schooling, uni (that many of you did!!-the safe option!!) through to their mid 20s..in a sport where its curtains by early 30s for most...you are telling me they must stay clean when they, in a sport with huge $ winnings and in reality no dope testing for HGH and EPO, should stay clean?????? The lag between the science of testing and cheating is huge and you flog and hang them type folk are not looking at the facts
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bonger
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All the needles, HGH and EPO are fairly cheap and very easy to get hold of and use for anyone with a credit card, frigde and an address. It has got to be a lifetime ban for cheats.
And yes i am saying they should be forced to stay clean by much more severe punishment.
What's GHG?
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Emyr42
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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| maybe the manufacturers should be forced to create a test before the product is allowed to be sold... I'm sure the W.H.O. can do something about it. |
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bonger
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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| maybe the manufacturers should be forced to create a test before the product is allowed to be sold... I'm sure the W.H.O. can do something about it. |
That would be a harsh delay for people that need the medication for geunine reasons. |
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Lucho
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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| bonger wrote: |
All the needles, HGH and EPO are fairly cheap and very easy to get hold of and use for anyone with a credit card, frigde and an address. It has got to be a lifetime ban for cheats.
And yes i am saying they should be forced to stay clean by much more severe punishment.
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HGH?...anyway, how about looking at the facts and not the slip of a finger on the keyboard |
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bonger
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Ok, a couple of facts. *CENSORED* like HGH and EPO are fairly easy to get and are not that expensive but the punishment for using them is not very harsh. Is that a good thing or a bad thing. |
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digger
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Ok, a couple of facts. *CENSORED* like HGH and EPO are fairly easy to get and are not that expensive but the punishment for using them is not very harsh. Is that a good thing or a bad thing. |
Fort EPO was an expensive *CENSORED*. That the average pro or amature carn't really afford. |
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Lucho
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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| bonger wrote: |
| Ok, a couple of facts. *CENSORED* like HGH and EPO are fairly easy to get and are not that expensive but the punishment for using them is not very harsh. Is that a good thing or a bad thing. |
What are your qualifications? I don't know what it is like to be at Pro Tour level but I have some idea of how hard it is to get there
As they are undetectable *CENSORED* and the riders have forfeited various things all of us/you do (uni/career path etc etc, safe safe, risk free !!!!!)...and they hit mid 20s with 5 years of earning potential......it is understandable but wrong to dope and should be punished with a 2 year ban followed by a life ban...but not the silly flog em, hang em stuff.. |
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bonger
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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I don't have a wife or a family, i can't afford a car and i still live at home ALL because i love cycling and racing bikes.
Thank god i love the sport and what the sport is about as if i got on the HGH and EPO i would be at about at the level where i could fraud money from the industry and earn an ok living from racing bikes and therefore become part of why cycling as as popular as it could be. I am glad not everyone thinks like you. |
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