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dan.cave
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 Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 6:45 pm Post subject: How about this for a carbon frame!? |
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Hi All.
Before anyone gets the wrong idea, im not a trader, or in the trade per-se.
I've a good friend who works in Taiwan who's offered me a couple of carbon monocoque frames, like this one. (they're not stolen or dodgy either)
I'm expecting to get one before xmas, and he's said, if i want any more then he'll be able to do me a good deal on a few more, for around £600 frame, forks and headset (integrated, monocoque, and all standard fittings.. UK/European specs and postage to uk/europe) They in 49,52,55,58 c-top, horizontal geometry, so if you think they look *CENSORED* and it sounds like your thing, drop me an email so I can guage if it's worth getting a few more.
I'm gonna be putting campag centaur on mine 
Dan.
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hed
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only my personal opinion but whats the point of the bulges in the top tube and down tube?
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canon dale
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| Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:13 am Post subject: |
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Looks a bit pregnant if you ask me (which you did, indirectly)  |
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Des
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| Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:42 am Post subject: |
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| hed wrote: |
| only my personal opinion but whats the point of the bulges in the top tube and down tube? |
Possibly the same as the "Cantiflex" frames in the 1950's 
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hed
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| Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:58 am Post subject: |
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| Des wrote: |
| hed wrote: |
| only my personal opinion but whats the point of the bulges in the top tube and down tube? |
Possibly the same as the "Cantiflex" frames in the 1950's |
well before my time i'm afraid
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Adam
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| Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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| hed wrote: |
| only my personal opinion but whats the point of the bulges in the top tube and down tube? |
You can ask the same for lots of things, De Rosa springs to mind for designs like that.
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De Rosa
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| Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Adam wrote: |
| hed wrote: |
| only my personal opinion but whats the point of the bulges in the top tube and down tube? |
You can ask the same for lots of things, De Rosa springs to mind for designs like that. |
Leave my bulges out of this if you dont mind you young sprog!  |
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hed
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| Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Adam wrote: |
| hed wrote: |
| only my personal opinion but whats the point of the bulges in the top tube and down tube? |
You can ask the same for lots of things, De Rosa springs to mind for designs like that. |
so do they have a point then or are they just there to "look different"?
they are not aero, don't seem to offer anything structurally, and must add a small amount of weight if anything. and they look silly.
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mattr
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| Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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| hed wrote: |
| Adam wrote: |
| hed wrote: |
| only my personal opinion but whats the point of the bulges in the top tube and down tube? |
You can ask the same for lots of things, De Rosa springs to mind for designs like that. |
so do they have a point then or are they just there to "look different"?
they are not aero, don't seem to offer anything structurally, and must add a small amount of weight if anything. and they look silly. |
they do change the stiffness of the tube, without seeing the FE, there is no way to tell by how much tho.
Also, it could be due to thinning of the tube wall at that point, for a given weight a big diameter thin tube is stiffer than a small diameter thick walled tube, but a thin walled tube is harder to manipulate and join to other tubes. |
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RichL
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| Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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| mattr wrote: |
| hed wrote: |
| Adam wrote: |
| hed wrote: |
| only my personal opinion but whats the point of the bulges in the top tube and down tube? |
You can ask the same for lots of things, De Rosa springs to mind for designs like that. |
so do they have a point then or are they just there to "look different"?
they are not aero, don't seem to offer anything structurally, and must add a small amount of weight if anything. and they look silly. |
they do change the stiffness of the tube, without seeing the FE, there is no way to tell by how much tho.
Also, it could be due to thinning of the tube wall at that point, for a given weight a big diameter thin tube is stiffer than a small diameter thick walled tube, but a thin walled tube is harder to manipulate and join to other tubes. |
i think there is a bit of the De Rosa Tango effect in there, they made that frame look like that "because they could" (allegedly) |
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mattr
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| Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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| i think there is a bit of the De Rosa Tango effect in there, they made that frame look like that "because they could" (allegedly) |
well, of course, there is always the "we can, you can't" bit of the equation
or why would so many 'prestige' frame builders be able to charge so much for distinctly average frames....... |
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