Blood Doping: Is It Worth It?

jessi · Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:07 pm Post subject: Blood Doping: Is It Worth It?

I know that this is obviously a contraversial subject, but I have to do an A level essay on the pros and cons of blood doping.

Your opinions and ideas would be gretly appreciated.

Thanks,
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legro · Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:08 pm Post subject:

whats to say?
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jessi · Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:12 pm Post subject:

DNAse · Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:55 pm Post subject:

Well it's against the rules so is cheating. If you want to cheat that's up to you. Whether it's worth it or not depends on what is at stake and your own personal priorities and morals.

TBH I can't see any pros unless you value ill-gotten gains
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Andrew Jackson · Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:58 pm Post subject:

People smoke, drink and have poor lifestyles that damage their health, and do it knowingly. I guess for some blood doping is the same, they evaluate the risks and make a choice.
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Billy Boy · Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:02 pm Post subject:

Rich Hill · Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:03 pm Post subject:

This is the situation....

If you are a professional cyclist and you want to get results... and you know that you ride well above normal if you blood dope -and it gets you into a position to win...

Would you dope....?

I hope few people are put in this situation but thats just what happens when a bit of talent is pushed TOO far...
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DNAse · Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:03 pm Post subject:

DNAse · Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:09 pm Post subject:

To clarify my position I am against cheating rather than "taking preparation". I might not be against blood doping if it were legal, properly regulated and freely available.
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Hans Datdodishes · Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:55 pm Post subject:

If you use controversial and greatly then you might get a better grade.
Love from the grammar police.
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MercMan · Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:55 pm Post subject:

Andrew Jackson · Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:06 pm Post subject:

chrisd · Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:35 pm Post subject:

it depends on circumstances whether it is worth it or not.

if it was 1995 and EPO was undetectable and you were on the verge of losing a tour/putting in a bad performance and losing a contract then i suppose that you are really going to think about it.

but that raises the argument about is it wrong because you might get caught or it is morally wrong and what is legal and illegal?

the pros and cons are easy enough:

pros:

greater oxygen transported to the muscles, allows for quicker recovery and improved performance. nearly undetectable. will increase you ability as a cyclist.

cons:

if you get caught you are in trouble. you might die. is the administration of the *CENSORED* under the supervision of a doctor? i.e. do you know you are taking it properly and in the right amounts? will it affect you psychologically i.e. will you be able to race without it in the future?

i think it can be worth it, on the other hand you could throw away your career through greed (i.e. wanting to be a great rather than a good rider). i suppose it is a question the riders in that position have to ask themselves on a regular basis.
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sub4 · E, Bronze Joined: 18 Apr 2004 Posts: 350

I recall back in the 'good old days' when I was charitable enough to donate blood, I would still go running afterwards. Probably about 4 hrs after. I always remember feeling really up for it and flying round!

I suspect that this was not due to some self-induced aura of generousity, but a hormonal response to blood loss. Not that I would suggest that there would be any benefit if racing over a series of days (far from it!).

Has this effect ever been measured??

Dastardly · Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 10:23 pm Post subject:

I'm sure there are athletes out there who have done it, got glory, set themselves up financially and will live out their lives healthily. They would say it was worth it. If they get caught, theyd say it wasnt.
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Rich Hill · Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 11:06 pm Post subject:

Another thing to add to this post -: Blood doping with your own bloody.. tricky but the team Dr should be able to help out.

Blood Doping with someone else blood...well for once words a failing me...
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Richard · Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:27 am Post subject:

Doozer · Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:30 pm Post subject:

you could count Flo Jo (ameriacan female 100/200m sprinter) as a good example. "Rumoured" to be heavily into doping she won loads but died at the age of 40 ish. apparently she retired the same year as out of competition testing came about. Before that you could only be tested at events which as we know (dave millar etc..) is a piece of pi$$ to get around.

Early death for *CENSORED* abuse should be a big part of an essay on pro's and cons IMHO. Great is you're a winner but sucks if you earn loads of cahs from it and only get 5-10 yrs of enjoyment from it...

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jessi · Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 4:27 pm Post subject:

Blood doping is completly different to *CENSORED* taking in the sense that it does not introduce foreign bodies into your blood.

Baring this in mind, those who do not agree with blood doping, do you also disagree with training at altitude and using altitude beds/tents? All of these techniques have the exact same effect on an athletes blood - they increase the bloods viscosity therefore increasing the oxygen intake.

JONNO · Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 4:41 pm Post subject:

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