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Eastway & Olympic legacy shenanigans, do you care? |
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i would be more sympathetic if it wasn't being rammed down my throat everyday. |
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mosschops Guest
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:54 pm Post subject: do you care about londoners being swizzed out of a circuit? |
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well, and john & plurien you can only vote once - no registering under different names  |
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david123 E, Silver
Joined: 11 Apr 2007 Posts: 1868
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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As somone whos supported BC through thick and thicker,to me its thick to think I might be swayed now.But then a little birdie said to me that Hugh Cant has dropped his lucrative ad campaign with 57 varieties of courtesy to photographers.Im leaning towards the I dont know if I care corner which may be crowded. _________________ Tony Bell dates my hamster |
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AliCarr E, Silver

Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 1143 Location: wolverhampton
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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From what i hear, down there they can race for points almost every evening with some evenings with more than one race. Where i live you're lucky to get a race within a 50 mile radius once a weekend, never mind every evening.
I don't really know the situation too well down there, but i don't think they're that badly off for race circuits. _________________ Seizing the day since 1988. |
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Zeco2 E, Gold

Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 2190 Location: Prickwillow
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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AliCarr wrote: |
From what i hear, down there they can race for points almost every evening with some evenings with more than one race. Where i live you're lucky to get a race within a 50 mile radius once a weekend, never mind every evening. |
Well, you know the answer to that then.
When I started racing at 17, the majority of road races were limited to 40 riders. My club had never promoted a race and we were regularly getting our entries returned. The next year, I organised a race for 1/2/3 cats followed up with another five events in 1962, including one for Independents (semi-pros). The were no organisers' seminars in those days, just 'Hints to Promoters' in the BCF Hanndbook.
Dave Orford, when competing as an Independent, also made the effort to provide events for himself and his contemporaries by organising a series of races.
Admittedly a bit more is involved now but the solution is with you.
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baz E, Silver

Joined: 21 Feb 2004 Posts: 1257 Location: trying to avoid the stackups at hillingdon
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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AliCarr wrote: |
From what i hear, down there they can race for points almost every evening with some evenings with more than one race. Where i live you're lucky to get a race within a 50 mile radius once a weekend, never mind every evening.
I don't really know the situation too well down there, but i don't think they're that badly off for race circuits. |
Move down south!!!! _________________ training! what training ,just race yourself fit |
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AliCarr E, Silver

Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 1143 Location: wolverhampton
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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Zeco2 wrote: |
AliCarr wrote: |
From what i hear, down there they can race for points almost every evening with some evenings with more than one race. Where i live you're lucky to get a race within a 50 mile radius once a weekend, never mind every evening. |
Well, you know the answer to that then.
When I started racing at 17, the majority of road races were limited to 40 riders. My club had never promoted a race and we were regularly getting our entries returned. The next year, I organised a race for 1/2/3 cats followed up with another five events in 1962, including one for Independents (semi-pros). The were no organisers' seminars in those days, just 'Hints to Promoters' in the BCF Hanndbook.
Dave Orford, when competing as an Independent, also made the effort to provide events for himself and his contemporaries by organising a series of races.
Admittedly a bit more is involved now but the solution is with you.
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I know thats a possibility and if i had a bit more time i would like to try and organise a race in the future.
But what i was trying to say was that there are plenty of race circuits down south.
It's alot easier to organise a race on a ready made circuit than on a road with traffic.... i think _________________ Seizing the day since 1988. |
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Des Moderator


Joined: 19 Apr 2002 Posts: 16900 Location: Harrow
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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The whole point being that whilst we may have use of MOD land, motor circuits and Hillingdon, the levels of congestion in the south-east do not make it viable to use a circuit less than 50 miles away as the crow flys as you may not get there before the race is over. _________________ www.kentonrc.co.uk |
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ldncycle Elite Poster

Joined: 17 Oct 2005 Posts: 229
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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if the race is in the evening at a circuit in the direction of the general flow of city traffic leaving London then you really are in for the long haul.
Ironically, a circuit like Eastway that was pretty central was pretty easy to get to if you lived out of east London, travelling against the flow of the evening traffic is not to bad.
No good if you work in London trying to leave. And then, if there is an accident....... well. One time driving back from Europe, once I hit the M25 it took over 2 hours to get round a few junctions and make it into central London. It all shuts down.
Has to be seen to be believed.
Anyway, don't be lulled into a sense that we are complacent about what we had in regard to Eastway, it is precisely because we know how good it was that we want to get it back, this campaign has been going on for years before the closure. |
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STASH KALISZ E, Bronze

Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 422 Location: Looking for the malice stone
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 6:46 am Post subject: |
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not alone there alicarr 140 mile round trip tonight to get jr a ride theres nothing near to nottingham other then mallory and thats only once a week for youths i belive and few tts but road racing feck all _________________ I want a girl with lips like morphine
blow a kiss that leaves me gasping |
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hed World Champ

Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 12377 Location: on my hoods.
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:12 am Post subject: |
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admittedly, i know very little about the situation as i don't race and live up norf, however, if cyclists in this country have had another venue taken from them, of course it will impact on the national level of the sport and is a concern. _________________ Team VeloRiders- like Rock Racing, only far more perverted. |
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DNAse E, Gold

Joined: 24 Feb 2006 Posts: 2414 Location: Oxfordshire
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:22 am Post subject: |
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I see there's a new circuit on the surreyleague calendar:
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Mercedes-Benz World Series
One more new series for 2007 is the Mercedes-Benz World Series. There will be only 5 events in this series all taking place on Thursday evenings with the 1st event on May 31st. Racing for youths will start at 18:30 with racing for E/1/2/3/4 category riders starting at 19:00.
Mercedes-Benz World at Brooklands can be found near Weybridge in Surrey.
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Does anyone have anymore details of this (does it go up and down the banking? ) _________________ "Train?! Training is for people with no natural ability!" |
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Voodoo Div 2 Pro

Joined: 19 Oct 2006 Posts: 5675 Location: Park Lane, London / South Wales / Sparta
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:36 am Post subject: |
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Des wrote: |
The whole point being that whilst we may have use of MOD land, motor circuits and Hillingdon, the levels of congestion in the south-east do not make it viable to use a circuit less than 50 miles away as the crow flys as you may not get there before the race is over. |
I think we are lucky to have Hillingdon so close
those who have to travel over form the east are not so lucky _________________ http://uk.movember.com/mospace/289902/ |
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varno Div 1 Pro

Joined: 17 Jun 2003 Posts: 6368 Location: Bromsgrove
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Hans Datdodishes T de F Winner
Joined: 28 Feb 2002 Posts: 28370 Location: On the Superior Forum with the cool kids
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:47 am Post subject: |
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No, given the number of facilities that will be in place later this season and post olympics, thanks to BCs policy of quietly carrying out the negotiations in the background _________________ World Masters Drive HillClimb For Taureans Category C Champion 2013.
I'm a qualified coach. |
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Des Moderator


Joined: 19 Apr 2002 Posts: 16900 Location: Harrow
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:52 am Post subject: |
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It was the only one in inner London accessable by bike to locals and people in most of the metropolitan area. Hillingdon is already at full capacity. Betteshanger, quicker to get to Mallory, mercedes Circuit - new this year and 5 events only, Crystal Palace not overly accessable and not available when it rains due to H & S. MoD Chertsey Not accesable from the East - ltd usage. Eelmore Hampshire...
Although I could go on I 'm sure you get the point Jim. When I lived in the black country it was feasable for me to drive over to Mallory on a Tuesday evening and get back at a reasonable time, something that is impossible to do in the SE _________________ www.kentonrc.co.uk |
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Hans Datdodishes T de F Winner
Joined: 28 Feb 2002 Posts: 28370 Location: On the Superior Forum with the cool kids
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:55 am Post subject: |
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Des wrote: |
It was the only one in inner London accessable by bike to locals and people in most of the metropolitan area. Hillingdon is already at full capacity. Betteshanger, quicker to get to Mallory, mercedes Circuit - new this year and 5 events only, Crystal Palace not overly accessable and not available when it rains due to H & S. MoD Chertsey Not accesable from the East - ltd usage. Eelmore Hampshire...
Although I could go on I 'm sure you get the point Jim. When I lived in the black country it was feasable for me to drive over to Mallory on a Tuesday evening and get back at a reasonable time, something that is impossible to do in the SE |
Will not the temporary facilities by definition be more accessible for other people who couldn't have reached Eastway, ie all those people who live off the EUGs parochial radar in the satellite towns round the M25? _________________ World Masters Drive HillClimb For Taureans Category C Champion 2013.
I'm a qualified coach. |
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MadCow Div 1 Pro

Joined: 14 Jan 2004 Posts: 8506 Location: Yorkshire
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:56 am Post subject: |
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Erm please can I draw your attention to the result of the poll? so STFU, please.  _________________
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Des Moderator


Joined: 19 Apr 2002 Posts: 16900 Location: Harrow
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 11:00 am Post subject: |
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Hans Datdodishes wrote: |
Des wrote: |
It was the only one in inner London accessable by bike to locals and people in most of the metropolitan area. Hillingdon is already at full capacity. Betteshanger, quicker to get to Mallory, mercedes Circuit - new this year and 5 events only, Crystal Palace not overly accessable and not available when it rains due to H & S. MoD Chertsey Not accesable from the East - ltd usage. Eelmore Hampshire...
Although I could go on I 'm sure you get the point Jim. When I lived in the black country it was feasable for me to drive over to Mallory on a Tuesday evening and get back at a reasonable time, something that is impossible to do in the SE |
Will not the temporary facilities by definition be more accessible for other people who couldn't have reached Eastway, ie all those people who live off the EUGs parochial radar in the satellite towns round the M25? |
Timothy, I have been talking about the Legacy plans for Eastway, not the interim provision, which I do appreciate must by necessity involve some compromise. _________________ www.kentonrc.co.uk |
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alexc Div 2 Pro

Joined: 24 Jul 2003 Posts: 5192
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 11:02 am Post subject: |
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I carer about this nearly as little as I care about:
legro's shed,
how far tommo and steve p lasted on the previous sunday without getting blasted,
kj's holiday location,
what are the best wheels for a rider of Xkg thats cost Y punds to buy and are used in a,,b and C races,
anything Tony Bell has ever done or is going to do (namely watch corrie and whinge about politics)
why bc is best/ worse or neither (apparently its unexpected that different people have different views on this, go figure)
how fast a certain course is at a certain time of day,
who is this pic of
which mp3 player is best,
lets just have pics of fit chicks, dirty chicks, proper racing stuff , dirty jokes and usefull technical (cycling and non cycling) advice, not no mark sh14 kickers whittering on about absolutely nothing. _________________ You don't get big legs watching telly. |
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KJ T de F Winner
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 11:05 am Post subject: |
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So go play on another forum then One where they talk sense . I can recommend Cycling Weekly or the London Cycle Sport. |
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