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Can you tell what the time gap is by where the convoy is? |
Yes - pretty obvious |
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Stuart Moderator


Joined: 12 Dec 2002 Posts: 16263 Location: Thorne
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:18 am Post subject: Signs a break is more than 30 seconds |
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Having moved behind a break yesterday in a race I was just wondering how many riders knew that the gap is a least thirty seconds if the assistant comm moves behind the break. _________________ 'What's up with her? I been hearing that she's been giving that stuff out to all them grafitti guys!' ' Yo, shut the :evil: up, Chico, man!' 'I'd paint 3 of those murals for some of that ass....' |
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JONNO Div 1 Pro

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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:20 am Post subject: |
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I always thought it was 45 seconds. How about setting a bit of a quiz up on rules of racing for us?  _________________ I was being chased by a police dog last week, and made the mistake of trying to escape through a little tunnel, over a see-saw and through a hoop of fire. It finally caught me as I was weaving in and out of some sticks. |
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Stuart Moderator


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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:24 am Post subject: |
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30 seconds is the minimum a break has to have before an assistant commissaire would move behind the break.
60 seconds is the minimum a break has before a team vehicle is allowed to move up to the break.
Obviously, a slight touch of common sense comes in to play and normally one would watch the break before moving behind it in case it came back or summat. _________________ 'What's up with her? I been hearing that she's been giving that stuff out to all them grafitti guys!' ' Yo, shut the :evil: up, Chico, man!' 'I'd paint 3 of those murals for some of that ass....' |
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dockeca Div 2 Pro

Joined: 27 Feb 2002 Posts: 4741 Location: halfway up the South Downs - or halfway down the South Ups!
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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Stuart is right in essence, 30 seconds for commissaire and possibly neutral service, at least 60 seconds for team cars. Getting out is sometimes left a bit closer, sometimes down to 45 seconds for team cars, 30 seconds for the neutral but down to 20-25 seconds for the commissaire car. It all depends on how quickly the gap is opening and/or closing and the road situation, whether it's easy to get out or not. One thing any rider can be certain of, when the moto-comm comes out it's probably close to all over! _________________ Doc
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SteveO Div 1 Pro

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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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I'm normally a lot more than 30 seconds behind the break.  |
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Stuart Moderator


Joined: 12 Dec 2002 Posts: 16263 Location: Thorne
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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dockeca wrote: |
One thing any rider can be certain of, when the moto-comm comes out it's probably close to all over! |
The is the point - if the comm is behind the break then really the riders should keep working through and off and not bother looking behind. If the car moves forward then as you say - start worrying bout the health of the break.
I told the riders they had over a minute's break yet they still looked behind all the time.
Not really a big issue - just curious if riders know all about the movement of the convoy or not. _________________ 'What's up with her? I been hearing that she's been giving that stuff out to all them grafitti guys!' ' Yo, shut the :evil: up, Chico, man!' 'I'd paint 3 of those murals for some of that ass....' |
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Voodoo Div 2 Pro

Joined: 19 Oct 2006 Posts: 5675 Location: Park Lane, London / South Wales / Sparta
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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Stuart wrote: |
dockeca wrote: |
One thing any rider can be certain of, when the moto-comm comes out it's probably close to all over! |
The is the point - if the comm is behind the break then really the riders should keep working through and off and not bother looking behind. If the car moves forward then as you say - start worrying bout the health of the break.
I told the riders they had over a minute's break yet they still looked behind all the time.
Not really a big issue - just curious if riders know all about the movement of the convoy or not. |
I didn't know but I'm glad I do know  _________________ http://uk.movember.com/mospace/289902/ |
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Matt Clinton Div 1 Pro

Joined: 12 Oct 2004 Posts: 7868 Location: rarely logging in.
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, I don't think anyone really knew. We had some idea when one of the cars pulled over before Islip, but we didn't know a time until Dave Coulson went and asked you Stuart, even then we were a bit unsure of what the gap was, hence I think the reason everyone was going through and off so well. _________________ http://www.facebook.com/MikeVaughanCyc
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Des Moderator


Joined: 19 Apr 2002 Posts: 16900 Location: Harrow
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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How does this work at Hillingdon then  _________________ www.kentonrc.co.uk |
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Voodoo Div 2 Pro

Joined: 19 Oct 2006 Posts: 5675 Location: Park Lane, London / South Wales / Sparta
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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Des wrote: |
How does this work at Hillingdon then  |
Yeah they should have fellas on Mopeds riding round with orange lights on their helmets with backboards telling you who is in the break, how many and how much time.
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Rake Cat 2 Groupie

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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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Only car I ever saw was the voiture balai |
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dockeca Div 2 Pro

Joined: 27 Feb 2002 Posts: 4741 Location: halfway up the South Downs - or halfway down the South Ups!
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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Me too! I've got a long memory.... _________________ Doc
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