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If your route includes a cafe stop - always carry a spare base layer and change it in the cafe.
Make sure you maximise drafting and shelter on clubruns by inviting some women along
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If your route includes a cafe stop - always carry a spare base layer and change it in the cafe.
Make sure you maximise drafting and shelter on clubruns by inviting some women along |
I don't recommend changing base layers part way through a ride.
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Hans Datdodishes
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If your route includes a cafe stop - always carry a spare base layer and change it in the cafe.
Make sure you maximise drafting and shelter on clubruns by inviting some women along |
I don't recommend changing base layers part way through a ride. |
You need the 'how not to' forum
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| Hans Datdodishes wrote: |
| If your route includes a cafe stop - always carry a spare base layer and change it in the cafe. |
 actually very good advice...
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| Make sure you maximise drafting and shelter on clubruns by inviting some women along |
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| Hans Datdodishes wrote: |
If your route includes a cafe stop - always carry a spare base layer and change it in the cafe.
Make sure you maximise drafting and shelter on clubruns by inviting some women along |
Do said women also have to change base layer in cafe also? |
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Hans Datdodishes
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| Roy Gardiner wrote: |
| Hans Datdodishes wrote: |
| If your route includes a cafe stop - always carry a spare base layer and change it in the cafe. |
actually very good advice... |
Picked up from a former Peace Race rider.
The Olbas Oil one was from Geoff Cooke.
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If your route includes a cafe stop - always carry a spare base layer and change it in the cafe.
Make sure you maximise drafting and shelter on clubruns by inviting some women along |
Do said women also have to change base layer in cafe also? |
I like your thinking, but don't forget these are women cyclists, not women
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Changing base layer means the body has to warm up again.
Inuit take base layers off only when they are indoors for an extended period, not when they're going out in the cold again.
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| Hans Datdodishes wrote: |
| If your route includes a cafe stop - always carry a spare base layer and change it in the cafe. |
I don't recommend changing base layers part way through a ride. |
Really? If you sit in the cafe with damp base layer, you'll get cold. Then go out in the cold with damp clothing -- not good, surely?
But if you change base layer the first thing you do I find it's firstly more comfy in the cafe and less cold on leaving.
It's worked for me; but nowadays I don't have stops except in Majorca so it doesn't apply.
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Base layers designed to work dry or wet aren't they? It's not the layer that keeps you warm it's the trapped air between skin and layer.
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If your base layer is so wet it needs changing, you have too much clobber on. Key is to get the number of layers correct in the first place.
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| If your base layer is so wet it needs changing, you have too much clobber on. Key is to get the number of layers correct in the first place. |
Or do what I do, don't sweat. 
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| Billy Boy wrote: |
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| If your base layer is so wet it needs changing, you have too much clobber on. Key is to get the number of layers correct in the first place. |
Or do what I do, don't sweat. |
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| If your base layer is so wet it needs changing, you have too much clobber on. Key is to get the number of layers correct in the first place. |
Or do what I do, don't sweat. |
You're not trying ard enough then |
I know.
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If your route includes a cafe stop - always carry a spare base layer and change it in the cafe.
Make sure you maximise drafting and shelter on clubruns by inviting some women along |
Also keeping the speed down to about 13mph which negates the need for (a).
Is this a valid assumption?
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If your route includes a cafe stop - always carry a spare base layer and change it in the cafe.
Make sure you maximise drafting and shelter on clubruns by inviting some women along |
Also keeping the speed down to about 13mph which negates the need for (a).
Is this a valid assumption? |
You sexist pig
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| JONNO wrote: |
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If your route includes a cafe stop - always carry a spare base layer and change it in the cafe.
Make sure you maximise drafting and shelter on clubruns by inviting some women along |
Also keeping the speed down to about 13mph which negates the need for (a).
Is this a valid assumption? |
Even I ride faster than that I guess it depends on which women are out on the training ride. Personally I pick a nice muscled bum to sit behind and given the excellent view don't really notice the cold.
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| Eeyore wrote: |
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If your route includes a cafe stop - always carry a spare base layer and change it in the cafe.
Make sure you maximise drafting and shelter on clubruns by inviting some women along |
Do said women also have to change base layer in cafe also? |
I've done this on mega-club runs before (where I arrive at the fcafe a perspiring mess). Lack of public conveniences at the cafe meant I stripped down to me sports top in the cafe (and put on a dry base layer). A couple of the older fellas from the club looked like they were going to have heart attacks 
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| I've done this on mega-club runs before (where I arrive at the fcafe a perspiring mess). Lack of public conveniences at the cafe meant I stripped down to me sports top in the cafe (and put on a dry base layer). A couple of the older fellas from the club looked like they were going to have heart attacks |
Hmm, not a flattering story; unless the young fellahs had actually had heart attacks and were lying dead?
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| I've done this on mega-club runs before (where I arrive at the fcafe a perspiring mess). Lack of public conveniences at the cafe meant I stripped down to me sports top in the cafe (and put on a dry base layer). A couple of the older fellas from the club looked like they were going to have heart attacks |
Hmm, not a flattering story; unless the young fellahs had actually had heart attacks and were lying dead? |
I cannot lie Roy. Only the old fellas with good eyesight even noticed
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