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Davey C
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Ok 'hypothetical' scenario here...
You've just ridden a 25 2-Up TT, and thanks to your son being a junior you've walked away with the junior proze of £20. The actually top (and only other junior) finisher came 3rd and thus won the 3rd place prize. However you realise you are a vet and could have gotten the vets prize (which is worth £10 more) instead.
Do you:
a) rush home and immediately ring the (exhausted) organiser to point this out - and demand your £10?
b) say oh well, we had a good day out and won some money, what's £10 in the scheme of things? And if we had claimed, then somebody else wouldn't have had the prize and the junior money would have gone to waste.
c) give up TTs because they are pointless inthe first place
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You're going to tw@ someone, I can tell, smart as fresh paint, me.
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a) . £10 buys a couple of houses in Wales
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One rider one prize.
But surely as in most other team TTs the age related prizes are for either complete teams of juniors or vets, or combined ages not exceeding the max, min ages for the catagories i.e in this case a max of 36 years combined for the juniors or a min of 80 for the vets. At least this gets you off the hook. 
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| Des wrote: |
One rider one prize.
But surely as in most other team TTs the age related prizes are for either complete teams of juniors or vets, or combined ages not exceeding the max, min ages for the catagories i.e in this case a max of 36 years combined for the juniors or a min of 80 for the vets. At least this gets you off the hook. |
There is no hook. Just tell Mr Tester to FOYC
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| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Billy Boy wrote: |
| Des wrote: |
One rider one prize.
But surely as in most other team TTs the age related prizes are for either complete teams of juniors or vets, or combined ages not exceeding the max, min ages for the catagories i.e in this case a max of 36 years combined for the juniors or a min of 80 for the vets. At least this gets you off the hook. |
There is no hook. Just tell Mr Tester to FOYC |
You could do this, but I prefer to say in light of what I wrote above, that he was wrongly awarded the prize in the first place and could he return it 
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Andrew Jackson
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Think about how sad I am for even thinking about the different rules regarding whether I had won the J prize the V prize or any prize, then forget about it.
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Davey C
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| Think about how sad I am for even thinking about the different rules regarding whether I had won the J prize the V prize or any prize, then forget about it. |
Thank you. That's what I thought.
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I'd be blaming the muppets that passed down the junior's prize and created the problem in the first place.
Oh, wait... when you try to do someone a bluddy favour eh? |
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Terry Tibbs
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| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:10 pm Post subject: Re: What would you do? |
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| Davey C wrote: |
Ok 'hypothetical' scenario here...
You've just ridden a 25 2-Up TT, and thanks to your son being a junior you've walked away with the junior proze of £20. The actually top (and only other junior) finisher came 3rd and thus won the 3rd place prize. However you realise you are a vet and could have gotten the vets prize (which is worth £10 more) instead.
Do you:
a) rush home and immediately ring the (exhausted) organiser to point this out - and demand your £10?
b) say oh well, we had a good day out and won some money, what's £10 in the scheme of things? And if we had claimed, then somebody else wouldn't have had the prize and the junior money would have gone to waste.
c) give up TTs because they are pointless inthe first place |
Refuse his next entry |
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Davey C
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| Rob of the Og wrote: |
I'd be blaming the muppets that passed down the junior's prize and created the problem in the first place.
Oh, wait... when you try to do someone a bluddy favour eh? |
Nope - you won 3rd place fair and square!!
Anyway - this was a hypothetical situation
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| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:19 pm Post subject: Re: What would you do? |
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| Davey C wrote: |
Ok 'hypothetical' scenario here...
You've just ridden a 25 2-Up TT, and thanks to your son being a junior you've walked away with the junior proze of £20. The actually top (and only other junior) finisher came 3rd and thus won the 3rd place prize. However you realise you are a vet and could have gotten the vets prize (which is worth £10 more) instead.
Do you:
a) rush home and immediately ring the (exhausted) organiser to point this out - and demand your £10?
b) say oh well, we had a good day out and won some money, what's £10 in the scheme of things? And if we had claimed, then somebody else wouldn't have had the prize and the junior money would have gone to waste.
c) give up TTs because they are pointless inthe first place |
To win a junior prize in a TTT all members of the team must be juniors. Same goes for Vets.
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Rob of the Og
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| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Davey C wrote: |
| Rob of the Og wrote: |
I'd be blaming the muppets that passed down the junior's prize and created the problem in the first place.
Oh, wait... when you try to do someone a bluddy favour eh? |
Nope - you won 3rd place fair and square!!
Anyway - this was a hypothetical situation |
As we were held up by a lorry driver turning in the road and then lost second place by only 4secs, we are planning on suing the lorry firm for the £10 loss of earnings that we suffered. I'm sure I will find a suitable legal type to represent our case. As our bikes cost only £4k between them, you can see that we can barely get by without that tenner. Also a post-race verbal contract was entered into that the prize would be spent on a shared bar round in Majorca, a verbal contract clearly renaged on by my partner as we obviously didn't visit the bar once in our whole trip. As far as I can remember. |
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Davey C
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| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Rob of the Og wrote: |
| Davey C wrote: |
| Rob of the Og wrote: |
I'd be blaming the muppets that passed down the junior's prize and created the problem in the first place.
Oh, wait... when you try to do someone a bluddy favour eh? |
Nope - you won 3rd place fair and square!!
Anyway - this was a hypothetical situation |
As we were held up by a lorry driver turning in the road and then lost second place by only 4secs, we are planning on suing the lorry firm for the £10 loss of earnings that we suffered. I'm sure I will find a suitable legal type to represent our case. As our bikes cost only £4k between them, you can see that we can barely get by without that tenner. Also a post-race verbal contract was entered into that the prize would be spent on a shared bar round in Majorca, a verbal contract clearly renaged on by my partner as we obviously didn't visit the bar once in our whole trip. As far as I can remember. |
Quite, sounds like you've got a good case. It's the principle apart from anything else.
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Des
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| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Davey C wrote: |
| Rob of the Og wrote: |
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| Rob of the Og wrote: |
I'd be blaming the muppets that passed down the junior's prize and created the problem in the first place.
Oh, wait... when you try to do someone a bluddy favour eh? |
Nope - you won 3rd place fair and square!!
Anyway - this was a hypothetical situation |
As we were held up by a lorry driver turning in the road and then lost second place by only 4secs, we are planning on suing the lorry firm for the £10 loss of earnings that we suffered. I'm sure I will find a suitable legal type to represent our case. As our bikes cost only £4k between them, you can see that we can barely get by without that tenner. Also a post-race verbal contract was entered into that the prize would be spent on a shared bar round in Majorca, a verbal contract clearly renaged on by my partner as we obviously didn't visit the bar once in our whole trip. As far as I can remember. |
Quite, sounds like you've got a good case. It's the principle apart from anything else. |
Surely the lorry driver could counter sue for the trauma of seeing Rob in lycra 
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Terry Tibbs
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| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Think about how sad I am for even thinking about the different rules regarding whether I had won the J prize the V prize or any prize, then forget about it. |
Thank you. That's what I thought. |
Presumably you know this "tard" so slap a few pairs of wheels in your passenger seat then follow them to their next race. Arrange for suitable "fan club" bunting for your motor then follow each of them during their TT and occasionally pass them at a marginally higher speed.
Appropriate action will then be taken by a CTT Kangaroo court. |
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Davey C
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Hey - he has been on VR weight watchers don'tchaknow. (Although quite why is a mystery to me!)
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Rob of the Og
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| I've reliased that I've just be tricked into admitting publicly to have a ridden a timetrial and even taking it quite seriously. That was bluddy entrapment DC. |
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Davey C
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| Terry Tibbs wrote: |
| Davey C wrote: |
| Andrew Jackson wrote: |
| Think about how sad I am for even thinking about the different rules regarding whether I had won the J prize the V prize or any prize, then forget about it. |
Thank you. That's what I thought. |
Presumably you know this "tard" so slap a few pairs of wheels in your passenger seat then follow them to their next race. Arrange for suitable "fan club" bunting for your motor then follow each of them during their TT and occasionally pass them at a marginally higher speed.
Appropriate action will then be taken by a CTT Kangaroo court. |
Best suggestion yet..!
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Davey C
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| I've reliased that I've just be tricked into admitting publicly to have a ridden a timetrial and even taking it quite seriously. That was bluddy entrapment DC. |
Could be worse. I organised one! 
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