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George Minion
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:47 pm    Post subject: Blenheim TT Reply with quote

Anyone entering the 20km TT at Blenheim Palace on Oct 4th?and does anyone know what the course is like?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll ride it wiv ya George, could do with some practice
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.bikeblenheimpalace.com/race.php#tt
you can borrow my pointy hat Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fast start, narrow for most of the route, technical with lots of corners and challenging descents. A proper bike rider's course! But it's a wonderful environment, and if you stay to have a potter round later on when the route is open for leisure riding, you can enjoy all the views you didn't see through the red mist..
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Road bike or TT bike?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew Jackson wrote:
Road bike or TT bike?


the answer to that is somewhat obvious Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PNuT wrote:
Andrew Jackson wrote:
Road bike or TT bike?


the answer to that is somewhat obvious Rolling Eyes


yer, so obvious I can see it Confused Please explain Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew Jackson wrote:
PNuT wrote:
Andrew Jackson wrote:
Road bike or TT bike?


the answer to that is somewhat obvious Rolling Eyes


yer, so obvious I can see it Confused Please explain Rolling Eyes


its a timetrial... so ride a timetrial bike

rocket science it isnt
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PNuT wrote:
Andrew Jackson wrote:
PNuT wrote:
Andrew Jackson wrote:
Road bike or TT bike?


the answer to that is somewhat obvious Rolling Eyes


yer, so obvious I can see it Confused Please explain Rolling Eyes


its a timetrial... so ride a timetrial bike

rocket science it isnt


dockeca wrote:
Fast start, narrow for most of the route, technical with lots of corners and challenging descents. A proper bike rider's course! But it's a wonderful environment, and if you stay to have a potter round later on when the route is open for leisure riding, you can enjoy all the views you didn't see through the red mist..


Therefore being a proper bike riders course thought that a TT bike may be a problem. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Therefore being a proper bike riders course thought that a TT bike may be a problem. Rolling Eyes


if he said it was really technical would you think of riding an mtb or trials bike? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends if you can get some of the sillier TT bikes to go round corners fast and safe?? Dual carriageway it ain't by the sound of it, more like dual cabbageway! Should be fun. And then you can watch the Bromptons with racers in disguise in suits, if it's on this year. Went last year and Heras couldn't believe some Brit from a bike shop beat him!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hugh Jampton wrote:
Depends if you can get some of the sillier TT bikes to go round corners fast and safe??


Rolling Eyes

Bike setup is lost on you it seems
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

'kin 'ell. There are TT courses that are faster on a road bike with clip-ons. I know this because pros occasionally TT on road bikes on particularly tough courses. Simple innit?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There are TT courses that are faster on a road bike with clip-ons

A mountain TT is the only place where a road bike may be worth it. Any other profile a TT bike will be faster.
No mountains at Blenheim AFAIK.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are they laying on 40 ft artics, old farts who can recite the rulebook, and rank tea and cakes to truly replicate the time trial experience for all?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vegetable wrote:
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There are TT courses that are faster on a road bike with clip-ons

A mountain TT is the only place where a road bike may be worth it. Any other profile a TT bike will be faster.
No mountains at Blenheim AFAIK.


I see. Have a look at:

http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/photos/2009/giro09/?id=/photos/2009/giro09/giro0912/bettiniphoto_0039079_1_full

and see that Menchov, Garzelli, Di Luca to name a few would disagree.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tucker wrote:
vegetable wrote:
Quote:
There are TT courses that are faster on a road bike with clip-ons

A mountain TT is the only place where a road bike may be worth it. Any other profile a TT bike will be faster.
No mountains at Blenheim AFAIK.


I see. Have a look at:

http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/photos/2009/giro09/?id=/photos/2009/giro09/giro0912/bettiniphoto_0039079_1_full

and see that Menchov, Garzelli, Di Luca to name a few would disagree.


That was a mountain TT though that you link to Wink . So understandably a few of them rode road bikes.

If you were referring to the final TT over the greasy cobbles where Menchov fell off, then I think some went for roadbikes for the handling on the slippery roads.

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To succeed, it required not just superlative form to tackle the climbs of Bracco and Termine, that together amounted to more than 1,100 metres' elevation, but an equal dose of nail-biting descending that would have burned through those rubber brake blocks that differentiate between life and death, finesse as well.

Thursday in Cinque Terre, Menchov had both in spades.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

benlane wrote:
Tucker wrote:
vegetable wrote:
Quote:
There are TT courses that are faster on a road bike with clip-ons

A mountain TT is the only place where a road bike may be worth it. Any other profile a TT bike will be faster.
No mountains at Blenheim AFAIK.


I see. Have a look at:

http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/photos/2009/giro09/?id=/photos/2009/giro09/giro0912/bettiniphoto_0039079_1_full

and see that Menchov, Garzelli, Di Luca to name a few would disagree.


That was a mountain TT though that you link to Wink . So understandably a few of them rode road bikes.

If you were referring to the final TT over the greasy cobbles where Menchov fell off, then I think some went for roadbikes for the handling on the slippery roads.

The Giro D'Italia wrote:


To succeed, it required not just superlative form to tackle the climbs of Bracco and Termine, that together amounted to more than 1,100 metres' elevation, but an equal dose of nail-biting descending that would have burned through those rubber brake blocks that differentiate between life and death, finesse as well.

Thursday in Cinque Terre, Menchov had both in spades.



A mountain TT is in common parlance riding from the bottom to the top of a mountain. A 61km TT which goes up a few climbs is a hilly TT. Fact.
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