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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There are TT courses that are faster on a road bike with clip-ons

A mountain TT is the only place where a road bike may be worth it. Any other profile a TT bike will be faster.
No mountains at Blenheim AFAIK.


I see. Have a look at:

http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/photos/2009/giro09/?id=/photos/2009/giro09/giro0912/bettiniphoto_0039079_1_full

and see that Menchov, Garzelli, Di Luca to name a few would disagree.


That was a mountain TT though that you link to Wink . So understandably a few of them rode road bikes.

If you were referring to the final TT over the greasy cobbles where Menchov fell off, then I think some went for roadbikes for the handling on the slippery roads.

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To succeed, it required not just superlative form to tackle the climbs of Bracco and Termine, that together amounted to more than 1,100 metres' elevation, but an equal dose of nail-biting descending that would have burned through those rubber brake blocks that differentiate between life and death, finesse as well.

Thursday in Cinque Terre, Menchov had both in spades.



A mountain TT is in common parlance riding from the bottom to the top of a mountain. A 61km TT which goes up a few climbs is a hilly TT. Fact.


Not in the UK it's not, where the Blenheim race is. Check out the Teesdale 40.5 MTT or the Tyneside Vagabonds 47 mile MTT both in the north of England. Both are mountain time trials, neither go from bottom to top. In fact in UK parlance, we call those type of events hillclimbs. FACT.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Turn up and ride a road bike for the TT, your fellow competitors will appreciate you handicapping yourself "fact" Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tucker seems to know everything apart from how to finish a race... fact
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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tucker seems to know everything apart from how to finish a race... fact


To be fair the Dorset Tour wasn't exactly his fault Embarassed
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not in the UK it's not, where the Blenheim race is. Check out the Teesdale 40.5 MTT or the Tyneside Vagabonds 47 mile MTT both in the north of England. Both are mountain time trials, neither go from bottom to top. In fact in UK parlance, we call those type of events hillclimbs. FACT.


You can't contradict a "fact" with another "fact", that negates the whole point of "fact", FACT!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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tucker seems to know everything apart from how to finish a race... fact


To be fair the Dorset Tour wasn't exactly his fault Embarassed


you dont really think i follow his progress do you?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PNuT wrote:
Des wrote:
PNuT wrote:
tucker seems to know everything apart from how to finish a race... fact


To be fair the Dorset Tour wasn't exactly his fault Embarassed


you dont really think i follow his progress do you?


Well, clearly you do. Don't be ashamed.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tucker wrote:
PNuT wrote:
Des wrote:
PNuT wrote:
tucker seems to know everything apart from how to finish a race... fact


To be fair the Dorset Tour wasn't exactly his fault Embarassed


you dont really think i follow his progress do you?


Well, clearly you do. Don't be ashamed.


clearly... next you will be telling me that i idolise hippies
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tucker wrote:
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Not in the UK it's not, where the Blenheim race is. Check out the Teesdale 40.5 MTT or the Tyneside Vagabonds 47 mile MTT both in the north of England. Both are mountain time trials, neither go from bottom to top. In fact in UK parlance, we call those type of events hillclimbs. FACT.


You can't contradict a "fact" with another "fact", that negates the whole point of "fact", FACT!


Sure I can, and I did.
Let's leave this whole debate with the obvious fact that the Blenheim TT should be ridden on a TT bike.
Now, no more Mr Tucker!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

benlane wrote:
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benlane wrote:
Not in the UK it's not, where the Blenheim race is. Check out the Teesdale 40.5 MTT or the Tyneside Vagabonds 47 mile MTT both in the north of England. Both are mountain time trials, neither go from bottom to top. In fact in UK parlance, we call those type of events hillclimbs. FACT.


You can't contradict a "fact" with another "fact", that negates the whole point of "fact", FACT!


Sure I can, and I did.
Let's leave this whole debate with the obvious fact that the Blenheim TT should be ridden on a TT bike.
Now, no more Mr Tucker!


Oh, I wouldn't dispute that.

I can't even remember what the original disagreement was.

However, you do need to be careful with facting contradictions to previously facted statements. Although modern science hasn't fully recognised it yet, this is actually how black holes are formed.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PNuT wrote:
Tucker wrote:
PNuT wrote:
Des wrote:
PNuT wrote:
tucker seems to know everything apart from how to finish a race... fact


To be fair the Dorset Tour wasn't exactly his fault Embarassed


you dont really think i follow his progress do you?


Well, clearly you do. Don't be ashamed.


clearly... next you will be telling me that i idolise hippies


I feckin' well hope not!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I asked if I should ride the Blemhiem TT on a TT setup or road setup.

I will ride a TT setup - that is all.

Special thanks go out to pNut for his help. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I asked if I should ride the Blemhiem TT on a TT setup or road setup.

I will ride a TT setup - that is all.

Special thanks go out to pNut for his help. Laughing


fixed or gears?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PNuT wrote:
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I asked if I should ride the Blemhiem TT on a TT setup or road setup.

I will ride a TT setup - that is all.

Special thanks go out to pNut for his help. Laughing


fixed or gears?


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the answer to that is somewhat obvious Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew Jackson wrote:
PNuT wrote:
Andrew Jackson wrote:
I asked if I should ride the Blemhiem TT on a TT setup or road setup.

I will ride a TT setup - that is all.

Special thanks go out to pNut for his help. Laughing


fixed or gears?


PNuT wrote:

the answer to that is somewhat obvious Rolling Eyes


fixed it is then Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lee wrote:
PNuT wrote:
Tucker wrote:
PNuT wrote:
Des wrote:
PNuT wrote:
tucker seems to know everything apart from how to finish a race... fact


To be fair the Dorset Tour wasn't exactly his fault Embarassed


you dont really think i follow his progress do you?


Well, clearly you do. Don't be ashamed.


clearly... next you will be telling me that i idolise hippies


I feckin' well hope not!


it would be prefreble to following tucker
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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it would be prefreble to following tucker


Right - clearly you know that I failed to finish at least one race. This means that, in a limited fashion, you have been following my progress. You admit would like to idolise hippies more than something you already do by choice - ergo, you are a hippie-lover.

Suck it long and hard, hippie lover.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tucker wrote:
PNuT wrote:
it would be prefreble to following tucker


Right - clearly you know that I failed to finish at least one race. This means that, in a limited fashion, you have been following my progress. You admit would like to idolise hippies more than something you already do by choice - ergo, you are a hippie-lover.

Suck it long and hard, hippie lover.


i was watching some of the local riders @ the ras & notitced you are still a useless twunt
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PNuT wrote:
Tucker wrote:
PNuT wrote:
it would be prefreble to following tucker


Right - clearly you know that I failed to finish at least one race. This means that, in a limited fashion, you have been following my progress. You admit would like to idolise hippies more than something you already do by choice - ergo, you are a hippie-lover.

Suck it long and hard, hippie lover.


i was watching some of the local riders @ the ras & notitced you are still a useless twunt


Absolutely correct.

Ah, I see PNut is abusing his power by editting my posts. Still, if I was a bin man I'd probably do it too.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tucker wrote:
PNuT wrote:
Tucker wrote:
PNuT wrote:
it would be prefreble to following tucker


Right - clearly you know that I failed to finish at least one race. This means that, in a limited fashion, you have been following my progress. You admit would like to idolise hippies more than something you already do by choice - ergo, you are a hippie-lover.

Suck it long and hard, hippie lover.


i was watching some of the local riders @ the ras & notitced you are still a useless twunt


Absolutely correct.

Ah, I see PNut is abusing his power by editting my posts. Still, if I was a bin man I'd probably do it too.


not me.... dont moderate on here anymore
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