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Neil1983
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:16 pm Post subject: Legally time trialing on a fixed

I'm thinking of using my track bike for time trialing, is it road legal and race legal with just a front break? Also, are there any particular events (particularly 10s) that are reasonably flat and suitable for racing a fixed in the Wiltshire area - particularly near Swindon. Thanks!

Hugo Koblet
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:23 pm Post subject: Re: Legally time trialing on a fixed

Neil1983 wrote:

I'm thinking of using my track bike for time trialing, is it road legal and race legal with just a front break?

Also, are there any particular events (particularly 10s) that are reasonably flat and suitable for racing a fixed in the Wiltshire area - particularly near Swindon.

Thanks!

Yes, as done by Graeme Obree until very recently.

Obree broke a very hilly course record in Scotland on a fixed so any dual carriageway course should be fine for you if you're strong.

Robabank
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 2:05 am Post subject: Re: Legally time trialing on a fixed

Neil1983 wrote:

I'm thinking of using my track bike for time trialing, is it road legal and race legal with just a front break?

If you have a lockring, definitely. And quite possibly even if you don't.

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Also, are there any particular events (particularly 10s) that are reasonably flat and suitable for racing a fixed in the Wiltshire area - particularly near Swindon.

Never done the U47 but it's fast so presumably flat.

Tucker
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:22 am Post subject: Re: Legally time trialing on a fixed

Neil1983 wrote:

The Swindon RC club 10s every Thursday night are on a fairly flat course - the U47, which I presume is the DC course, is pan-flat.

Hans Datdodishes
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:45 am Post subject:

Better off using a brake _________________ World Masters Drive HillClimb For Taureans Category C Champion 2013. I'm a qualified coach.

Dave Griffiths
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 7:30 pm Post subject:

Hans Datdodishes wrote:

Better off using a brake

Snap!

stuie
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:36 pm Post subject: u47

there is an evening 10 on the u47? awesome.

andyc
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:41 pm Post subject: Re: u47

stuie wrote:

there is an evening 10 on the u47? awesome.

The evening 10 is on U48 (back road parallel to the dual carriage way that's the U47). Pretty much as flat, but road surface isn't good so quite a bit slower I think

Tucker
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 6:46 pm Post subject: Re: u47

andyc wrote:

stuie wrote:

there is an evening 10 on the u47? awesome.

The evening 10 is on U48 (back road parallel to the dual carriage way that's the U47). Pretty much as flat, but road surface isn't good so quite a bit slower I think

Word. I did a 23.77 on it last year - shameful.

Dave Griffiths
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:18 pm Post subject: Re: u47

Tucker wrote:

andyc wrote:

stuie wrote:

there is an evening 10 on the u47? awesome.

The evening 10 is on U48 (back road parallel to the dual carriage way that's the U47). Pretty much as flat, but road surface isn't good so quite a bit slower I think

Word. I did a 23.77 on it last year - shameful.

Is that sort of the same as a 23-46? (whatever, its quick by my standards)

Tucker
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: u47

Dave Griffiths wrote:

Tucker wrote:

andyc wrote:

stuie wrote:

there is an evening 10 on the u47? awesome.

The evening 10 is on U48 (back road parallel to the dual carriage way that's the U47). Pretty much as flat, but road surface isn't good so quite a bit slower I think

Word. I did a 23.77 on it last year - shameful.

Is that sort of the same as a 23-46? (whatever, its quick by my standards)

No. 77 refers to the number of whole seconds.

Dave Griffiths
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:34 pm Post subject: Re: u47

Tucker wrote:

Dave Griffiths wrote:

Tucker wrote:

andyc wrote:

stuie wrote:

there is an evening 10 on the u47? awesome.

The evening 10 is on U48 (back road parallel to the dual carriage way that's the U47). Pretty much as flat, but road surface isn't good so quite a bit slower I think

Word. I did a 23.77 on it last year - shameful.

Is that sort of the same as a 23-46? (whatever, its quick by my standards)

No. 77 refers to the number of whole seconds.

Embarrassingly, thats still .........................

Tucker
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:37 pm Post subject: Re: u47

Dave Griffiths wrote:

Tucker wrote:

Dave Griffiths wrote:

Tucker wrote:

andyc wrote:

stuie wrote:

there is an evening 10 on the u47? awesome.

The evening 10 is on U48 (back road parallel to the dual carriage way that's the U47). Pretty much as flat, but road surface isn't good so quite a bit slower I think

Word. I did a 23.77 on it last year - shameful.

Is that sort of the same as a 23-46? (whatever, its quick by my standards)

No. 77 refers to the number of whole seconds.

Embarrassingly, thats still .........................

Don't worry, Im less than half your age and there's probably only a handful of seconds in it...

Roy Gardiner
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:51 pm Post subject: Re: u47

Tucker wrote:

andyc wrote:

The evening 10 is on U48. Pretty much as flat, but road surface isn't good so quite a bit slower I think

Word. I did a 23.77 on it last year - shameful.

By contrast, last year I did a 20 in one event of my club's evening 10 series, on the tough E16.

26-20 I think it was
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Dave Griffiths
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:07 pm Post subject: Re: u47

Tucker wrote:

Dave Griffiths wrote:

Tucker wrote:

Dave Griffiths wrote:

Tucker wrote:

andyc wrote:

stuie wrote:

there is an evening 10 on the u47? awesome.

The evening 10 is on U48 (back road parallel to the dual carriage way that's the U47). Pretty much as flat, but road surface isn't good so quite a bit slower I think

Word. I did a 23.77 on it last year - shameful.

Is that sort of the same as a 23-46? (whatever, its quick by my standards)

No. 77 refers to the number of whole seconds.

Embarrassingly, thats still .........................

Don't worry, Im less than half your age and there's probably only a handful of seconds in it...

Nah, I was talking 'ever' Crying or Very sad

I never was any good at TT's, though did not ride many fast courses. Way back on 01 May 1962, Jim Grieves and myself (both riding for Helyett-Cinzano) as training, rode the Rugby Velo Club evening '10'. It was held on the lumpy A426, starting before Draycote Reservoir, heading to Southam and had a dead turn, just beyond the Stockton crossroads. Jim won with 24-25 and myself on 25-05.
Not sure whether it was that same night but Stan Brittain (Stan was 'real quick') rode one, on the same course, and clocked around 23-30. These days the club uses K10 versions and a few top riders have been sub 20. My last year's best was 28-16. The only slightly 'consoling' statistic was that it gave me a +4-14 on Vets Std. Other than that it was SLOW!
Enough history Laughing

Terry Tibbs
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Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 1:27 am Post subject:

Boringmaan's 17 minute 10 was done on the Rossett course on 108" fixed. Amazing thpugh that is, Esafosfuckedoffisface did an 18 min 10 on a std bike. A far more epoch making ride in my pissed up opinion

John McC
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Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 1:31 am Post subject:

Terry Tibbs wrote:

Boringmaan's 17 minute 10 was done on the Rossett course on 108" fixed. Amazing thpugh that is, Esafosfuckedoffisface did an 18 min 10 on a std bike. A far more epoch making ride in my pissed up opinion

Yer and that red and white frame was almost as nice as my Mercian! Cool

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Tucker
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Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 1:07 pm Post subject: Re: u47

Dave Griffiths wrote:

Tucker wrote:

Dave Griffiths wrote:

Tucker wrote:

Dave Griffiths wrote:

Tucker wrote:

andyc wrote:

stuie wrote:

there is an evening 10 on the u47? awesome.

The evening 10 is on U48 (back road parallel to the dual carriage way that's the U47). Pretty much as flat, but road surface isn't good so quite a bit slower I think

Word. I did a 23.77 on it last year - shameful.

Is that sort of the same as a 23-46? (whatever, its quick by my standards)

No. 77 refers to the number of whole seconds.

Embarrassingly, thats still .........................

Don't worry, Im less than half your age and there's probably only a handful of seconds in it...

Nah, I was talking 'ever' Crying or Very sad

Yeah, but your bike probably weighed about a tenth of a metric ton and only had half a gear.

Davey C
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Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:04 pm Post subject:

Good Christ I hate testing. My experience today has done little to change that opinion. _________________ Have you got any Triple Sod? Yellow Bentines? What about some Clarky Cat?

Rob of the Og
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Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:33 pm Post subject:

Davey C wrote:

Good Christ I hate testing. My experience today has done little to change that opinion.

And you're doing it again tomorrow!

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