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Winter bikes should have mudguards |
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No, waste of time. Just something else to go wrong |
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Hans Datdodishes T de F Winner
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:33 am Post subject: Mudguards - yes or no? |
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Just wondered what the thought of VRs was. Personally I'm in the no camp - I don't think they make a massive amount of difference. If its wet, you're going to get wet and dirty regardless _________________ World Masters Drive HillClimb For Taureans Category C Champion 2013.
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David Mclean E, Bronze
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:51 am Post subject: |
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It is possible to avoid getting dirty and wet by using mudguards.
For riding alone they need to be full mudguards with a flap for the front guard, which means having a bike with mudguard clearances. None of this race blade or crud roadracer nonsense, might as well not bother.
For riding in a group everyone in the entire group needs full mudguards and long mudflaps, front a rear, something that rarely happens. Of the people I train with this only happens once per week max in the winter.
Otherwise I don't think there is any point in having them. |
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Svetty E, Bronze
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:32 am Post subject: Re: Mudguards - yes or no? |
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Hans Datdodishes wrote: |
Well?
Just wondered what the thought of VRs was. Personally I'm in the no camp - I don't think they make a massive amount of difference. If its wet, you're going to get wet and dirty regardless |
Tim's a selfish **** who sprays mud and road into the face of the rider behind him. Surprised anyone? ![Rolling Eyes](images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif) _________________ Svetty
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Hans Datdodishes T de F Winner
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:43 am Post subject: Re: Mudguards - yes or no? |
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Svetty wrote: |
Hans Datdodishes wrote: |
Well?
Just wondered what the thought of VRs was. Personally I'm in the no camp - I don't think they make a massive amount of difference. If its wet, you're going to get wet and dirty regardless |
Tim's a selfish **** who sprays mud and road into the face of the rider behind him. Surprised anyone? ![Rolling Eyes](images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif) |
And svetty is a whining wheelsucking *CENSORED* who probably votes Labour. Feeling better now? _________________ World Masters Drive HillClimb For Taureans Category C Champion 2013.
I'm a qualified coach. |
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Billy Boy T de F Winner
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:06 am Post subject: Re: Mudguards - yes or no? |
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Svetty wrote: |
Hans Datdodishes wrote: |
Well?
Just wondered what the thought of VRs was. Personally I'm in the no camp - I don't think they make a massive amount of difference. If its wet, you're going to get wet and dirty regardless |
Tim's a selfish **** who sprays mud and road into the face of the rider behind him. Surprised anyone? ![Rolling Eyes](images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif) |
He doesn't even ride a bike so I'm not sure why he cares tbh. _________________ "Well done, you are 100% absolutely without a shadow of a doubt spot-bollock-on correct." - Tucker
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mig E, Silver
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:07 am Post subject: |
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massive stripe up the harris if no back mudguard. not good. _________________ tamp 'em up solid |
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Billy Boy T de F Winner
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:08 am Post subject: |
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mig wrote: |
massive stripe up the harris if no back mudguard. not good. |
I think some people enjoy the experience of having cold, gritty shyte blasted at their ring piece. _________________ "Well done, you are 100% absolutely without a shadow of a doubt spot-bollock-on correct." - Tucker
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ChrisB E, Silver
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:25 pm Post subject: Re: Mudguards - yes or no? |
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Hans Datdodishes wrote: |
If its wet, you're going to get wet and dirty regardless |
If it's wet, you'll get rained on. Without mudguards, you'll ALSO get covered in water from the road, including all manner of mud, oil, grit, as will your bike. Shorter life for both your drivetrain and your clothes - you think it's good to cover your kit in an abrasive before you put it in the washing machine? I'd much rather just contend with rainwater, personally. |
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Hans Datdodishes T de F Winner
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:41 pm Post subject: Re: Mudguards - yes or no? |
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ChrisB wrote: |
Hans Datdodishes wrote: |
If its wet, you're going to get wet and dirty regardless |
If it's wet, you'll get rained on. Without mudguards, you'll ALSO get covered in water from the road, including all manner of mud, oil, grit, as will your bike. Shorter life for both your drivetrain and your clothes - you think it's good to cover your kit in an abrasive before you put it in the washing machine? I'd much rather just contend with rainwater, personally. |
This votes going to be too close to call...
Anyway - mudguards won't prevent road water getting on your chain, mechs etc etc unless they're 5 inches wide and reach right down to the ground _________________ World Masters Drive HillClimb For Taureans Category C Champion 2013.
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ChrisB E, Silver
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:55 pm Post subject: Re: Mudguards - yes or no? |
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Hans Datdodishes wrote: |
Anyway - mudguards won't prevent road water getting on your chain, mechs etc etc unless they're 5 inches wide and reach right down to the ground |
You know, you're exactly right. I'm going to go home and take mine off.
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Hans Datdodishes T de F Winner
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:05 pm Post subject: Re: Mudguards - yes or no? |
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ChrisB wrote: |
Hans Datdodishes wrote: |
Anyway - mudguards won't prevent road water getting on your chain, mechs etc etc unless they're 5 inches wide and reach right down to the ground |
You know, you're exactly right. I'm going to go home and take mine off.
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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yes cos I'm lazy and cheap... _________________ Well, don't you know about the bird
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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If you dont give a toss about your mates... dont bother fitting guards....however if you are a bit work shy in a group it can play in your favour cos we tell the lepers to sit on the back!! _________________ It never gets easier..you just go faster... |
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Svetty E, Bronze
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:12 pm Post subject: Re: Mudguards - yes or no? |
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Hans Datdodishes wrote: |
Svetty wrote: |
Hans Datdodishes wrote: |
Well?
Just wondered what the thought of VRs was. Personally I'm in the no camp - I don't think they make a massive amount of difference. If its wet, you're going to get wet and dirty regardless |
Tim's a selfish **** who sprays mud and road into the face of the rider behind him. Surprised anyone? ![Rolling Eyes](images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif) |
And svetty is a whining wheelsucking *CENSORED* who probably votes Labour. Feeling better now? |
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Pantani E, Silver
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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I'm in the yes group cos I like to stay clean and dry, but don't think mudguards help anyone behind you unless you have a long mudflap. Mostly my experiences of sitting behind people with guards are of the dirty water dripping off the end of guard back onto the tyre and being fired straight into my face. I also don't think they do anything to protect your bike cos they just aim all the sh!te back onto the drivetrain. So really for me the only reason for using them seems to be to keep my dry. _________________ Don't train, it makes you too tired to race. |
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David Mclean E, Bronze
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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A long front mudguard flap will reduce the amount of spray onto your drivetrain by quite a bit. |
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Pantani E, Silver
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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David Mclean wrote: |
A long front mudguard flap will reduce the amount of spray onto your drivetrain by quite a bit. |
My experience is most of it is aimed back down there by the rear mudguard. _________________ Don't train, it makes you too tired to race. |
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David Mclean E, Bronze
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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You're probably right, a dirty/wet drivetrain isn't such a big problem compared to dirty/wet feet and though. howabout a skirt guard?
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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Billy Boy wrote: |
mig wrote: |
massive stripe up the harris if no back mudguard. not good. |
I think some people enjoy the experience of having cold, gritty shyte blasted at their ring piece. |
you called? _________________
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But, on reflection, you're probably right... |
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Pantani E, Silver
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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David Mclean wrote: |
You're probably right, a dirty/wet drivetrain isn't such a big problem compared to dirty/wet feet and though. howabout a skirt guard?
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I just clean my bike after a ride. I do use guards cos I like to stay clean and dry myself as much as possible myself. I was just disagreeing with the people who said it helped keep your bike clean. _________________ Don't train, it makes you too tired to race. |
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