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My PB in a 25 is 2nd |
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Indeed. My PB is first.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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And just for the record the E1 course that the Lea Valley 25 was held on is far from a dual carriageway - a lumpy single carriageway and to average over 30 mph on that is a stonking ride.
My best is 57-01 on there, which was when I was at my best and the week before I did my overall PB of 54-10 on the E72 (in the Redbridge 25 in 1993 which Matt won with 50-05). |
im not that convinced that matts previous course record was on that version of the course?
nino & me did a two up on there at the end of 2009 & we had to stop a mile from the end as nino smashed his front wheel up on a pot hole... we did a mid 54 that day
also he only took 4 seconds of matts 10 course record the day before.... |
I'm sure someone will confirm.
Incidentally, my 57.01 was on a slightly easier version of the course (didn't have to go all the way back up Kia-ora) - and it was a good afternoon in September - not mid March!!!
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My PB in a 25 is 2nd |
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Indeed. My PB is first. |
So why didn't you post that as your PB originally rather than some meaningless time?
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Because me saying I came first in my 25 and Alex coming first in the Lea Valley on the same course doesn't really convey a sense of how good his ride was now does it   
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| Because me saying I came first in my 25 and Alex coming first in the Lea Valley on the same course doesn't really convey a sense of how good his ride was now does it |
He came first, therefore it was a GOOD RIDE. Simple
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| Because me saying I came first in my 25 and Alex coming first in the Lea Valley on the same course doesn't really convey a sense of how good his ride was now does it |
He came first, therefore it was a GOOD RIDE. Simple |
So does that make me as good a rider as Alex
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| Because me saying I came first in my 25 and Alex coming first in the Lea Valley on the same course doesn't really convey a sense of how good his ride was now does it |
He came first, therefore it was a GOOD RIDE. Simple |
So does that make me as good a rider as Alex |
Have you beaten Alex recently in a time trial? Simple really
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how do you manage that in a 2 up? Its unusual in a a packed bunch !!! |
a coach over took us & then braked hard to avoid another 2up pair..... we got stuck in its boot riding on the tops.... one pot hole on the course & nino managed to hit it!
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| Because me saying I came first in my 25 and Alex coming first in the Lea Valley on the same course doesn't really convey a sense of how good his ride was now does it |
the 57.01 wasn't meaningless to me...
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:17 am Post subject: |
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| Because me saying I came first in my 25 and Alex coming first in the Lea Valley on the same course doesn't really convey a sense of how good his ride was now does it |
He came first, therefore it was a GOOD RIDE. Simple |
So does that make me as good a rider as Alex |
Have you beaten Alex recently in a time trial? Simple really |
I haven't ever raced against Alex in a TT.
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try getting that correct... that was the ecca 10 the day before |
Oh, ok. Still.
Re the Jock Wadley - did he enter? It'd be strange if he was refused seeing as Sky riders were in the Eddie Soens, Lincoln GP and a few other events last year, and some Italian pro was in a NW event before the ToB.
But yeah, BC can be just as bad - look at the current Cicle Classic farce for one. |
i read somewhere that he wasnt allowed to enter... one of the comms on here will correct me if thats wrong! |
UCI have tightened their procedures, closing the loophole that allowed ProTour riders to ride a small number of lower category events. Result is that you'll not see ProTour riders riding smaller events in any country this year. |
How did this happen then...?
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| Because me saying I came first in my 25 and Alex coming first in the Lea Valley on the same course doesn't really convey a sense of how good his ride was now does it |
He came first, therefore it was a GOOD RIDE. Simple |
So does that make me as good a rider as Alex |
Have you beaten Alex recently in a time trial? Simple really |
I haven't ever raced against Alex in a TT. |
well that's going to change next weekend as he's riding our hilly 
Think I'm going to get well and truly thrashed
Course and event record is 56.24 by Hutch.
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Instead of making elapsed time a measure, surely the differential is a more importnat measure of where you ar. So a winners differential is nil, and all others are at x minutes y seconds. Much more meaningful, and gets away from all the nonsense of "fast" and "slow" courses, "good" and "bad" days, because it's the same for everyone - or as close as can be - and would also dump the fixed distance requirement. Much too radical, I guess, for the main road in the traffic bashers.
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| Instead of making elapsed time a measure, surely the differential is a more importnat measure of where you ar. So a winners differential is nil, and all others are at x minutes y seconds. Much more meaningful, and gets away from all the nonsense of "fast" and "slow" courses, "good" and "bad" days, because it's the same for everyone - or as close as can be - and would also dump the fixed distance requirement. Much too radical, I guess, for the main road in the traffic bashers. |
the harder the course/day the bigger the differential.... it changes nothing...
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| Bally wrote: |
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| Hans Datdodishes wrote: |
| Bally wrote: |
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| Because me saying I came first in my 25 and Alex coming first in the Lea Valley on the same course doesn't really convey a sense of how good his ride was now does it |
He came first, therefore it was a GOOD RIDE. Simple |
So does that make me as good a rider as Alex |
Have you beaten Alex recently in a time trial? Simple really |
I haven't ever raced against Alex in a TT. |
well that's going to change next weekend as he's riding our hilly
Think I'm going to get well and truly thrashed
Course and event record is 56.24 by Hutch. |
Not any more - 52.49 by Alex
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| Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Bally wrote: |
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| Hans Datdodishes wrote: |
| Bally wrote: |
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| Because me saying I came first in my 25 and Alex coming first in the Lea Valley on the same course doesn't really convey a sense of how good his ride was now does it |
He came first, therefore it was a GOOD RIDE. Simple |
So does that make me as good a rider as Alex |
Have you beaten Alex recently in a time trial? Simple really |
I haven't ever raced against Alex in a TT. |
well that's going to change next weekend as he's riding our hilly
Think I'm going to get well and truly thrashed
Course and event record is 56.24 by Hutch. |
Not any more - 52.49 by Alex |
Was the 52'49 the one pictured on pg 116 of the comic a couple of weeks back with him taking a right hand junction in the right hand gutter of a 2 laned road?
Tsk Tsk. |
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Pic of him riding the 25 in last week's cycling weekly made me shudder - tearing round a bend on the wrong side of road, wrong side of the side of the road... Anyone know how much time you save in a 25 by not riding round the left hand side of the course?
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| Bally wrote: |
| Bally wrote: |
| Bally wrote: |
| Hans Datdodishes wrote: |
| Bally wrote: |
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| Because me saying I came first in my 25 and Alex coming first in the Lea Valley on the same course doesn't really convey a sense of how good his ride was now does it |
He came first, therefore it was a GOOD RIDE. Simple |
So does that make me as good a rider as Alex |
Have you beaten Alex recently in a time trial? Simple really |
I haven't ever raced against Alex in a TT. |
well that's going to change next weekend as he's riding our hilly
Think I'm going to get well and truly thrashed
Course and event record is 56.24 by Hutch. |
Not any more - 52.49 by Alex |
Was the 52'49 the one pictured on pg 116 of the comic a couple of weeks back with him taking a right hand junction in the right hand gutter of a 2 laned road?
Tsk Tsk. |
Sorry didn't see your post.
Thought exactly the same thing - asking for a bad accident. Enough deaths in TTs already.... |
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Pic of him riding the 25 in last week's cycling weekly made me shudder - tearing round a bend on the wrong side of road, wrong side of the side of the road... Anyone know how much time you save in a 25 by not riding round the left hand side of the course?
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If you are talking about the photo where there are four Alex’s superimposed in a row then that was the Maldon Hilly and that corner was on a very quiet and exposed section of country lane. Everyone took the same line (although a lot slower obviously) and it would have been foolish to stay to the left at that point.
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| Bally wrote: |
| Bally wrote: |
| Bally wrote: |
| Hans Datdodishes wrote: |
| Bally wrote: |
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| Because me saying I came first in my 25 and Alex coming first in the Lea Valley on the same course doesn't really convey a sense of how good his ride was now does it |
He came first, therefore it was a GOOD RIDE. Simple |
So does that make me as good a rider as Alex |
Have you beaten Alex recently in a time trial? Simple really |
I haven't ever raced against Alex in a TT. |
well that's going to change next weekend as he's riding our hilly
Think I'm going to get well and truly thrashed
Course and event record is 56.24 by Hutch. |
Not any more - 52.49 by Alex |
Dowsett is flying and could well get comp record this year. However I read his twitter post after he did the Criterium International tt and was beaten by 30 seconds over just 7km. He said that he was taught a lesson in time trialling that day  .
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