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Scalatore E, Gold
Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 2484
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 10:25 am Post subject: |
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Can I just say, I have always liked Mr Landis and his take no prisoners attitude. _________________ Under the blossom that hangs on the bough. |
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Rich Hill Tour Winner
Joined: 15 Aug 2002 Posts: 15188 Location: Coventry
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 10:30 am Post subject: Re: I care |
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Davey C wrote: |
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I agree with all comments, but I do care.
It annoys me how L.A. attaches himself to cancer survivors, charities, makes money from guest appearances and all along weve been duped. As I get older, I have seen the suffering people go through with Cancer.... Its about Morals |
You would rather he hadn't launched a massive cancer charity? |
Its easy to see now... the charity is his avenue for chanelling his guilt... _________________ Imagination is the war against reality.... |
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London Bus Chaser Div 1 Pro
Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 6127
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 10:35 am Post subject: |
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Des wrote: |
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I hope he's got evidence to back all this up because if he hasn't he'll need deep pockets for legal fees. |
I think he is potless, hence why he's saying it - they can't sue you for what you don't have. |
man of straw. _________________ "Never wrestle with a chimney sweep." |
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TBK Div 3 Pro
Joined: 28 Oct 2003 Posts: 3984 Location: fighting the demons in my head........
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 10:36 am Post subject: |
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Scalatore wrote: |
Can I just say, I have always liked Mr Landis and his take no prisoners attitude. |
But he is ginger and everyone knows they can't be trusted!
I respected Armstrong for his first tour win, but things started to go sideways after that, he has given lots of cancer sufferers hope that can never be taken away from him, but his actions, stance and statements on the doping issue have always seemed tainted, taking his treatment of Simeoni as a prime example. _________________ A positive mental attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. |
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mattr World Champ
Joined: 16 Apr 2004 Posts: 12647
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 10:50 am Post subject: |
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TBK wrote: |
he has given lots of cancer sufferers hope that can never be taken away from him, |
Unless he gets busted and turns out to be a two faced lying cheat. |
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Scalatore E, Gold
Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 2484
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 10:54 am Post subject: |
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mattr wrote: |
TBK wrote: |
he has given lots of cancer sufferers hope that can never be taken away from him, |
Unless he gets busted and turns out to be a two faced lying cheat. |
A smoking gun? Not likely. _________________ Under the blossom that hangs on the bough. |
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TBK Div 3 Pro
Joined: 28 Oct 2003 Posts: 3984 Location: fighting the demons in my head........
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:10 am Post subject: |
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mattr wrote: |
TBK wrote: |
he has given lots of cancer sufferers hope that can never be taken away from him, |
Unless he gets busted and turns out to be a two faced lying cheat. |
True, in terms of his sporting achievements, but then the surviving the cancer he had when he was give a less than 40% survival chance was the thing that gave people hope.
I along with topskull think he a twat with his pontification re drugs though. _________________ A positive mental attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. |
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Tucker Tour Winner
Joined: 03 May 2006 Posts: 15722 Location: Swindon
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:15 am Post subject: |
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TBK wrote: |
mattr wrote: |
TBK wrote: |
he has given lots of cancer sufferers hope that can never be taken away from him, |
Unless he gets busted and turns out to be a two faced lying cheat. |
True, in terms of his sporting achievements, but then the surviving the cancer he had when he was give a less than 40% survival chance was the thing that gave people hope.
I along with topskull think he a twat with his pontification re drugs though. |
Beating 5:2 odds? ITS A MIRACLE! |
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Dogma Dave Div 1 Pro
Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 6714 Location: God's Own County
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:32 am Post subject: |
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Tucker wrote: |
TBK wrote: |
mattr wrote: |
TBK wrote: |
he has given lots of cancer sufferers hope that can never be taken away from him, |
Unless he gets busted and turns out to be a two faced lying cheat. |
True, in terms of his sporting achievements, but then the surviving the cancer he had when he was give a less than 40% survival chance was the thing that gave people hope.
I along with topskull think he a twat with his pontification re drugs though. |
Beating 5:2 odds? ITS A MIRACLE! |
That'll be 3:2 odds then. |
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Ed2001 E, Silver
Joined: 30 Nov 2006 Posts: 1081 Location: Manchester so much to answer for
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:32 am Post subject: |
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I think I would have been more shocked if he had said Lance rides clean.
It really amounts to nothing though without evidence. _________________ Enjoy every sandwich. |
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Salsiccia E, Gold
Joined: 11 Sep 2007 Posts: 2316
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:32 am Post subject: |
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Dogma Dave wrote: |
Tucker wrote: |
TBK wrote: |
mattr wrote: |
TBK wrote: |
he has given lots of cancer sufferers hope that can never be taken away from him, |
Unless he gets busted and turns out to be a two faced lying cheat. |
True, in terms of his sporting achievements, but then the surviving the cancer he had when he was give a less than 40% survival chance was the thing that gave people hope.
I along with topskull think he a twat with his pontification re drugs though. |
Beating 5:2 odds? ITS A MIRACLE! |
That'll be 3:2 odds then. |
Just as well he doesn't work with numbers for a living. _________________ Thinking about riding since 1988 |
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16mm E, Silver
Joined: 13 Mar 2007 Posts: 533
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:45 am Post subject: |
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Can we have a "I believe Floyd 2010" T shirt, and a Floyd 2010 fund.
I think I may want to help get this out in the open. |
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Scalatore E, Gold
Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 2484
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:53 am Post subject: |
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Okay, it's Kimmage, but, well...
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/columnists/paul_kimmage/article4322625.ece
I wonder how he's feeling this morning, betrayed?
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“Where were you when you heard about the positive test?” I ask.
“I was back home in Boulder.” “How did you hear of it?” “Just like everyone else.” “A news report?” “Yeah.” “What did you think?” “I was totally floored: I was like, ‘Wow! Are you kidding me?’”
(Long pause.) “Go on,” I urge, “keep going. You say you were floored.” “Yeah, I was very surprised.”
“Is that all?” “Yeah, I mean I felt . . . eh . . . I was just very surprised, because it was totally unexpected. It would be the last thing I could ever dream of.” |
Landis's ride THAT DAY was still an incredible exploit regardless of whatever else happened. _________________ Under the blossom that hangs on the bough. |
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Tucker Tour Winner
Joined: 03 May 2006 Posts: 15722 Location: Swindon
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:58 am Post subject: |
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Dogma Dave wrote: |
Tucker wrote: |
TBK wrote: |
mattr wrote: |
TBK wrote: |
he has given lots of cancer sufferers hope that can never be taken away from him, |
Unless he gets busted and turns out to be a two faced lying cheat. |
True, in terms of his sporting achievements, but then the surviving the cancer he had when he was give a less than 40% survival chance was the thing that gave people hope.
I along with topskull think he a twat with his pontification re drugs though. |
Beating 5:2 odds? ITS A MIRACLE! |
That'll be 3:2 odds then. |
His chances were 11.4285% less than 40%. |
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Stuart Moderator
Joined: 12 Dec 2002 Posts: 16263 Location: Thorne
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 12:00 pm Post subject: Re: I care |
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topskull wrote: |
Its about Morals |
What has he got to do with it?
_________________ 'What's up with her? I been hearing that she's been giving that stuff out to all them grafitti guys!' ' Yo, shut the :evil: up, Chico, man!' 'I'd paint 3 of those murals for some of that ass....' |
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TBK Div 3 Pro
Joined: 28 Oct 2003 Posts: 3984 Location: fighting the demons in my head........
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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Scalatore wrote: |
Okay, it's Kimmage, but, well...
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/columnists/paul_kimmage/article4322625.ece
I wonder how he's feeling this morning, betrayed?
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“Where were you when you heard about the positive test?” I ask.
“I was back home in Boulder.” “How did you hear of it?” “Just like everyone else.” “A news report?” “Yeah.” “What did you think?” “I was totally floored: I was like, ‘Wow! Are you kidding me?’”
(Long pause.) “Go on,” I urge, “keep going. You say you were floored.” “Yeah, I was very surprised.”
“Is that all?” “Yeah, I mean I felt . . . eh . . . I was just very surprised, because it was totally unexpected. It would be the last thing I could ever dream of, Johan and Lance told me I should never test positive doing things the way they showed me.” |
Landis's ride THAT DAY was still an incredible exploit regardless of whatever else happened. |
_________________ A positive mental attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. |
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racyrich2 E, Gold
Joined: 17 Sep 2004 Posts: 3123 Location: Essex
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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The Michael Barry Landis names and shames there will be the one oft seen now churning along on the front of bunches for squeaky-clean Team Sky. Ooops. _________________ Rich |
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Steve McGinty Div 2 Pro
Joined: 13 Dec 2003 Posts: 4902 Location: Norther than the Northerners
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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Scalatore wrote: |
Okay, it's Kimmage, but, well...
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/columnists/paul_kimmage/article4322625.ece
I wonder how he's feeling this morning, betrayed?
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“Where were you when you heard about the positive test?” I ask.
“I was back home in Boulder.” “How did you hear of it?” “Just like everyone else.” “A news report?” “Yeah.” “What did you think?” “I was totally floored: I was like, ‘Wow! Are you kidding me?’”
(Long pause.) “Go on,” I urge, “keep going. You say you were floored.” “Yeah, I was very surprised.”
“Is that all?” “Yeah, I mean I felt . . . eh . . . I was just very surprised, because it was totally unexpected. It would be the last thing I could ever dream of.” |
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Yeah, because - as he says now - it was HGH he'd taken, not synthetic testosterone... _________________ ... |
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Pinarello Cat 2 Groupie
Joined: 10 Nov 2009 Posts: 82 Location: An exclusive little villa in the hills overlooking Montpellier
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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Scalatore wrote: |
Can I just say, I have always liked Mr Landis and his take no prisoners attitude. |
Class act is Landis... protests his innocence for years, sets up his fairness charity to raise funds from his loyal fans to support his fight for innocence, guess he's drained every last $ he can from that so now to keep himself in the media spotlight he finally *CENSORED* the beans... his church must be proud of him. _________________ Pinny's back !
Still 'The richest man in Cheltenham'
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The thinking women's crumpet |
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Joursans Div 2 Pro
Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 4840 Location: The Whole Year Inn
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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If you're gonna lie - might as well make it a big one. I reckon a lot of cancer sufferers have taken a lot of strength from Armstrong's (too schmaltzy for my tastes) books and will continue to do so even if its been clear for some time that he must have been on the juice.
There's nothing in Landis testimony alone that could nail LA on the stict doping test - zero evidence (so far) to corroborate the testimony of someone of "bad character".
Will be interesting to see ASO's reaction on whether or not to invite him to the tour - he was very lucrative for them in the past and I'm sure that it is pure coincidence that L'Equipe (also owned by ASO) only happened to stumble across evdince of his EPO use in 1999 once he had retired from cycling...... .
It will also be interesting to see how his major sponsors react - on his own I expect Landis' will simply be faced down by the Armstrong empire as a whingeing loser. This may not be so easy however given what has happened to Tiger Woods. If someone else within the Postal team (say for example another ex-pro who has fallen upon hard times and has little to lose..... ) can also give a detailed account of the doping regime within the team this could make life very difficult for Armstrong. _________________ I tell myself I will not go,
even as I drive there. |
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