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Chrissylaa E, Gold
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:06 pm Post subject: Asthma |
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Anyone else got it?
Mine seems to have returned having been free of it for about 4 to 5 years.
Using inhaler again now(almost daily) and it(the asthma)has stopped me from training tonight.
Frustrating as some days are worse than others.
Using Cetirizine anti-histamine to block immune response aswell.
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Ed2001 E, Silver
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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If it has come back after that many years perhaps you should look at any recent changes to d1et ,environment etc. _________________ Enjoy every sandwich. |
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Chrissylaa E, Gold
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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If it has come back after that many years perhaps you should look at any recent changes to d1et ,environment etc. |
Can't think of anything other than the cold weather. _________________ And the senses being dulled are mine. |
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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I have it, not what a doctor would call severe but bad enough to make training in cold air very difficult.
Olbas oil etc on your chest and jersey helps me to some extent but I still have to use the ster-roid inhalers regularly if I want to do any aerobic exercise. It's definitely the cold air that sets mine off, as it's generally fine on the turbo/rollers.
If you do ride outside a very gradual warm up helps a lot, if I try and ride straight from the door with any effort I just cough and wheeze.
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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Chrissylaa wrote: |
Ed2001 wrote: |
If it has come back after that many years perhaps you should look at any recent changes to d1et ,environment etc. |
Can't think of anything other than the cold weather. |
Why don't you blame the coalition government? _________________ World Masters Drive HillClimb For Taureans Category C Champion 2013.
I'm a qualified coach. |
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Ed2001 E, Silver
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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Chrissylaa wrote: |
Ed2001 wrote: |
If it has come back after that many years perhaps you should look at any recent changes to d1et ,environment etc. |
Can't think of anything other than the cold weather. |
Maybe that's it I think you can get something called exercise induced asthma which can be brought on by exercising in cold weather. _________________ Enjoy every sandwich. |
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Chrissylaa E, Gold
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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Ed2001 wrote: |
Chrissylaa wrote: |
Ed2001 wrote: |
If it has come back after that many years perhaps you should look at any recent changes to d1et ,environment etc. |
Can't think of anything other than the cold weather. |
Maybe that's it I think you can get something called exercise induced asthma which can be brought on by exercising in cold weather. |
When i first had it about 10 years ago the doctor said it was "maturity induced asthma" ![Very Happy](images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif) _________________ And the senses being dulled are mine. |
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:19 am Post subject: |
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Ed2001 wrote: |
Chrissylaa wrote: |
Ed2001 wrote: |
If it has come back after that many years perhaps you should look at any recent changes to d1et ,environment etc. |
Can't think of anything other than the cold weather. |
Maybe that's it I think you can get something called exercise induced asthma which can be brought on by exercising in cold weather. |
Indeed you can. Horrible it is too. As Pete says, gentle warmup helps, as does breathing through a scarf/mask to keep the air warm, but I still find I simply can't go hard in the cold or my lungs shut down completely - no cyclo cross for me...
Never found normal inhalers to work, but a Formoterol/Foradil powder inhaler helps a lot doesn't actually stop it but more importantly reduces the severity of the symptoms and how long they last. It's firmly on the IOC banned list though so you'll need a TUE. |
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mattr World Champ
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:25 am Post subject: |
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Chrissylaa wrote: |
When i first had it about 10 years ago the doctor said it was "maturity induced asthma" ![Very Happy](images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif) |
Aged 10, I was told i was merely "chronically unfit" and needed to get out and exercise more.
When i went back 15 years later i was told that um, actually, yes, i did have asthma. And probably should have had an inhaler in case i'd dropped dead at some point in the last 15 years. Most of it was spent trying to get fit. |
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Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:27 am Post subject: |
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Chrissylaa wrote: |
Ed2001 wrote: |
If it has come back after that many years perhaps you should look at any recent changes to d1et ,environment etc. |
Can't think of anything other than the cold weather. |
Have you tried going gluten-free? I noticed a big difference when I gave it up, and when I ate bread, pasta etc again over Christmas my breathing became much more restricted again. |
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Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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Ed2001 wrote: |
Chrissylaa wrote: |
Ed2001 wrote: |
If it has come back after that many years perhaps you should look at any recent changes to d1et ,environment etc. |
Can't think of anything other than the cold weather. |
Maybe that's it I think you can get something called exercise induced asthma which can be brought on by exercising in cold weather. |
I went to the doctors because I got a tight chest and couldn't take deep breaths after being out on my bike.
I got told it was exercise induced breathlessness. Which does just sound like anything anyone gets after exercise. I got given an inhaler which I never used and just sat there and went out of date.
Mine isn't brought on by the cold though I get it all year round. It usually depends on how windy it is, I think! _________________ All things are possible except Skiing through a revolving door!!!!! |
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EllieBoots E, Bronze
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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Hibbs wrote: |
Chrissylaa wrote: |
Ed2001 wrote: |
If it has come back after that many years perhaps you should look at any recent changes to d1et ,environment etc. |
Can't think of anything other than the cold weather. |
Have you tried going gluten-free? I noticed a big difference when I gave it up, and when I ate bread, pasta etc again over Christmas my breathing became much more restricted again. |
Cutting out dairy (which I had to do for other reasons) made a massive difference to my asthma (which used to be fairly severe) as it cuts down enormously on mucus production (rank). I'd agree re checking changes to d i e t and environment. Re environment - mould spores can be a real problem for asthma and breathing in general - not suggesting you have a mouldy house but check that winter hasn't increased damp/mould growth where you don't expect it. |
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Ed2001 E, Silver
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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EllieBoots wrote: |
Hibbs wrote: |
Chrissylaa wrote: |
Ed2001 wrote: |
If it has come back after that many years perhaps you should look at any recent changes to d1et ,environment etc. |
Can't think of anything other than the cold weather. |
Have you tried going gluten-free? I noticed a big difference when I gave it up, and when I ate bread, pasta etc again over Christmas my breathing became much more restricted again. |
Cutting out dairy (which I had to do for other reasons) made a massive difference to my asthma (which used to be fairly severe) as it cuts down enormously on mucus production (rank). I'd agree re checking changes to d i e t and environment. Re environment - mould spores can be a real problem for asthma and breathing in general - not suggesting you have a mouldy house but check that winter hasn't increased damp/mould growth where you don't expect it. |
I always thought that but apparently it is a myth. That is not to say that food allergies/intolerance can't effect asthma just that dairy products don't increase mucus production in the body. _________________ Enjoy every sandwich. |
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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Ed2001 wrote: |
EllieBoots wrote: |
Hibbs wrote: |
Chrissylaa wrote: |
Ed2001 wrote: |
If it has come back after that many years perhaps you should look at any recent changes to d1et ,environment etc. |
Can't think of anything other than the cold weather. |
Have you tried going gluten-free? I noticed a big difference when I gave it up, and when I ate bread, pasta etc again over Christmas my breathing became much more restricted again. |
Cutting out dairy (which I had to do for other reasons) made a massive difference to my asthma (which used to be fairly severe) as it cuts down enormously on mucus production (rank). I'd agree re checking changes to d i e t and environment. Re environment - mould spores can be a real problem for asthma and breathing in general - not suggesting you have a mouldy house but check that winter hasn't increased damp/mould growth where you don't expect it. |
I always thought that but apparently it is a myth. That is not to say that food allergies/intolerance can't effect asthma just that dairy products don't increase mucus production in the body. |
Does that include folk who have a lactose intolerance? |
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Ed2001 E, Silver
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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KJ wrote: |
Ed2001 wrote: |
EllieBoots wrote: |
Hibbs wrote: |
Chrissylaa wrote: |
Ed2001 wrote: |
If it has come back after that many years perhaps you should look at any recent changes to d1et ,environment etc. |
Can't think of anything other than the cold weather. |
Have you tried going gluten-free? I noticed a big difference when I gave it up, and when I ate bread, pasta etc again over Christmas my breathing became much more restricted again. |
Cutting out dairy (which I had to do for other reasons) made a massive difference to my asthma (which used to be fairly severe) as it cuts down enormously on mucus production (rank). I'd agree re checking changes to d i e t and environment. Re environment - mould spores can be a real problem for asthma and breathing in general - not suggesting you have a mouldy house but check that winter hasn't increased damp/mould growth where you don't expect it. |
I always thought that but apparently it is a myth. That is not to say that food allergies/intolerance can't effect asthma just that dairy products don't increase mucus production in the body. |
Does that include folk who have a lactose intolerance? |
I think that is different to excess mucus production.
http://www.jacn.org/cgi/content/full/24/suppl_6/547S
As I said like Ellie I always believed this to be true but apparently it isn't. _________________ Enjoy every sandwich. |
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EllieBoots E, Bronze
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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Ed2001 wrote: |
KJ wrote: |
Ed2001 wrote: |
EllieBoots wrote: |
Hibbs wrote: |
Chrissylaa wrote: |
Ed2001 wrote: |
If it has come back after that many years perhaps you should look at any recent changes to d1et ,environment etc. |
Can't think of anything other than the cold weather. |
Have you tried going gluten-free? I noticed a big difference when I gave it up, and when I ate bread, pasta etc again over Christmas my breathing became much more restricted again. |
Cutting out dairy (which I had to do for other reasons) made a massive difference to my asthma (which used to be fairly severe) as it cuts down enormously on mucus production (rank). I'd agree re checking changes to d i e t and environment. Re environment - mould spores can be a real problem for asthma and breathing in general - not suggesting you have a mouldy house but check that winter hasn't increased damp/mould growth where you don't expect it. |
I always thought that but apparently it is a myth. That is not to say that food allergies/intolerance can't effect asthma just that dairy products don't increase mucus production in the body. |
Does that include folk who have a lactose intolerance? |
I think that is different to excess mucus production.
http://www.jacn.org/cgi/content/full/24/suppl_6/547S
As I said like Ellie I always believed this to be true but apparently it isn't. |
My mistake then That's interesting though as cutting the dairy out definitely reduced my snot levels as well as helping my asthma. If I ever slip up and have a cup of milky tea, a bit of cheese or some yog I get really itchy ears canals and throat, cloggy sinuses and a definite increased mucus level in the back of my throat. It's really noticeable, even one small pot of yoghurt will bring that on. I wonder why that is? |
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Chrissylaa E, Gold
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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EllieBoots wrote: |
Hibbs wrote: |
Chrissylaa wrote: |
Ed2001 wrote: |
If it has come back after that many years perhaps you should look at any recent changes to d1et ,environment etc. |
Can't think of anything other than the cold weather. |
Have you tried going gluten-free? I noticed a big difference when I gave it up, and when I ate bread, pasta etc again over Christmas my breathing became much more restricted again. |
Cutting out dairy (which I had to do for other reasons) made a massive difference to my asthma (which used to be fairly severe) as it cuts down enormously on mucus production (rank). I'd agree re checking changes to d i e t and environment. Re environment - mould spores can be a real problem for asthma and breathing in general - not suggesting you have a mouldy house but check that winter hasn't increased damp/mould growth where you don't expect it. |
It isn't this,could be some allergy though that's come on all of a sudden. _________________ And the senses being dulled are mine. |
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mattr World Champ
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Chatterbox wrote: |
I got told it was exercise induced breathlessness. |
That well known medical condition. ![Laughing](images/smiles/icon_lol.gif) |
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