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Bally
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Roy is in denial  |
of what? |
I will let the others tell you, that way you wont think I'm having a dig at you |
 Dig as much as you like, Dave; I have many faults, but excessive pride isn't one of them. Anyway, if I'm doing something fundamentally wrong I want to know about it.
My objectived in cycling are to maintain health and fitness, have a bit of fun, maybe ride fast if I can.
8pm. Dinner soon. I'm hungry. |
Roy, on the one hand you say you would like to get better, on the other hand you are quite happy to maintain fitness and have a bit of fun
I'm happy for you to do what ever you want to do, but you give out mixed messages.
You want to know if you are doing something fundamentally wrong. I have told you, and you brush it aside.
Eating late at night is not healthy dispite you getting away with it for years, your diet is crap dispite your efforts convincing yourself it's ok. Too much alcohol is not good either. All these factors are cause of effect to why you have not improved or go any faster.
I personally would love you to go faster and ride better overall, just like you would. As I said, you are in denial
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So I ride all year round, sort of. But I still don't get any better  <<<<<note the sad face |
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But at least he gave up smoking Dave   
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Roy Gardiner
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| But at least he gave up smoking Dave |
28 years ago. But he's right, too much drink - and wrong, my diet's fine. Erm, well, not so good this evening; bangers , mash , cauli  , carrots peas red wine
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legro
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I'm not bothered about improving where as Roy is
and his diet is crap
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Hans Datdodishes
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Many years ago, Joy Potts tried to teach me about diet by saying "think of your body as an engine that needs fuel. You wouldn't put pizzas or kebabs into an engine."
Now I think about it though, you wouldn't put carrots or fruit into an engine either.
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legro
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I haven't tried deisel before, will give it a go and get back to you
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legro
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not sure it's woking hans, the diesel is making me a bit rough
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SteveO
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| not sure it's woking hans, the diesel is making me a bit rough |
Chinese diesel?  |
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Roy Gardiner
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| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:37 am Post subject: |
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| I'm not bothered about improving where as Roy is |
As world champion and world record holder you don't have to be I guess.
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| and his diet is crap |
How do you know? Which bits - apart from my bacon baguette breakfast and eating dinner late at nigh with wine to go with it, all already covered - do you condemn?
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legro
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I'll talk to you next week on this......
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smudge100
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It all depends on what you mean by training? I am still going to circuits and running etc. I have now started to ride my bike on saturday and sundays for a couple of hours.
I will probalby start adding on my commute in December
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| not sure it's woking hans, the diesel is making me a bit rough |
I don't think smoking will help with the diesel diet
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babydinotrackboy
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Im sorry and ashamed to have to agree with Legro but he is right, although I would describe it as poor eating habits rather than a crap diet from the example you gave.
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mattr
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post spotted on a.n.other forum earlier this week.
'i don't need to do training, i'm already doing 250 miles a week'
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Roy Gardiner
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post spotted on a.n.other forum earlier this week.
'i don't need to do training, i'm already doing 250 miles a week'
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I should hope not! At 18mph average it's just under 2 hours a day. There are other things in life.
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legro
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| Im sorry and ashamed to have to agree with Legro but he is right, although I would describe it as poor eating habits rather than a crap *CENSORED* from the example you gave. |
don't be ashamed Lee, remember I taught you all I know
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Rob of the Og
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| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Roy Gardiner wrote: |
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post spotted on a.n.other forum earlier this week.
'i don't need to do training, i'm already doing 250 miles a week'
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I should hope not! At 18mph average it's just under 2 hours a day. There are other things in life. |
It wasn't me that posted what Matt refers to, but that's about the amount of riding that I'm doing at the moment and I wouldn't really call it 'training'. 14hours/week is an hour each way commute to work, then a club run on Sundays. Doesn't seem excessive. After Xmas when training starts then this will drop to 10-12hrs/week and the intensity will pick up. |
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John McC
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| It wasn't me that posted what Matt refers to, but that's about the amount of riding that I'm doing at the moment and I wouldn't really call it 'training'. 14hours/week is an hour each way commute to work, then a club run on Sundays. Doesn't seem excessive. After Xmas when training starts then this will drop to 10-12hrs/week and the intensity will pick up. |
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Roy Gardiner
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post spotted on a.n.other forum earlier this week.
'i don't need to do training, i'm already doing 250 miles a week'
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I should hope not! At 18mph average it's just under 2 hours a day. There are other things in life. |
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| Rob of the Og wrote: |
| It wasn't me that posted what Matt refers to, but that's about the amount of riding that I'm doing at the moment and I wouldn't really call it 'training'. 14hours/week is an hour each way commute to work, then a club run on Sundays. Doesn't seem excessive. After Xmas when training starts then this will drop to 10-12hrs/week and the intensity will pick up. |
It is to Royston! |
I didn't say it was excessive; but I'd have thought that if you can't fit in enough training in 14 hours a week (as a hobbyist; obviously professionals do more) then there's something wrong.
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Davey C
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I don't do any training - should I carry on not doing any?
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Rob of the Og
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| Roy Gardiner wrote: |
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post spotted on a.n.other forum earlier this week.
'i don't need to do training, i'm already doing 250 miles a week'
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I should hope not! At 18mph average it's just under 2 hours a day. There are other things in life. |
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| Rob of the Og wrote: |
| It wasn't me that posted what Matt refers to, but that's about the amount of riding that I'm doing at the moment and I wouldn't really call it 'training'. 14hours/week is an hour each way commute to work, then a club run on Sundays. Doesn't seem excessive. After Xmas when training starts then this will drop to 10-12hrs/week and the intensity will pick up. |
It is to Royston! |
I didn't say it was excessive; but I'd have thought that if you can't fit in enough training in 14 hours a week (as a hobbyist; obviously professionals do more) then there's something wrong. |
 I understand now. |
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