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Magnier E, Silver
Joined: 11 Nov 2008 Posts: 584 Location: Bristol
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:44 pm Post subject: Time trial on fixed |
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Looking at doing some TT's on fixed as pursuit prep.
Any advice on gearing etc, mainly 10's i think. |
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Joined: 12 Sep 2002 Posts: 18512
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:34 am Post subject: |
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between 100 & 110" obviously course dependent _________________ PNuT, who could forget PNuT
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Tucker Tour Winner

Joined: 03 May 2006 Posts: 15722 Location: Swindon
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:37 am Post subject: Re: Time trial on fixie |
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Magnier wrote: |
Looking at doing some TT's on fixed as pursuit prep.
Any advice on gearing etc, mainly 10's i think. |
Why not do one on a normal bike, see what gear you normally use then choose a slightly smaller one for the leg speed, or summat? |
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Bob J E, Silver
Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Posts: 1135 Location: Brittany
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:48 am Post subject: |
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It depends on the size of the track and how tight the bends are, tighter the track the smaller gear normally. As a guide 50 x 15 is a good start point, but I would have have thought no higher than 52 x 15 (92 / 93 inches)
Tucker's post is a good idea but sometimes the gear you use on the road doesn't always transfer to the track in my humble opinion  _________________ De Rosa taught me all I know, how could I fail?... |
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Bob J E, Silver
Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Posts: 1135 Location: Brittany
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:52 am Post subject: |
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Sorry, just re-read the original post, my answer was relating to the pursuit gear, on the road, for 10's, depends on your normal cadence, try Tucker's route! _________________ De Rosa taught me all I know, how could I fail?... |
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monk Div 1 Pro

Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 6589
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:59 am Post subject: |
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you'd be well advised to use your 3-4km pursuit gear magnier.
it tends to work out perfect by the time you've gone the extra disatance but reduced your rpm.
testers might ride 100"+ but they'd similar try to ride the same gear in pursuits.
for 25s and longer i might take a c'ring tooth off. e.g. 49x14 instead of 50x14. main reason would be so as not to lose leg speed/souplesse. |
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monk Div 1 Pro

Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 6589
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:01 am Post subject: |
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ps: for magnier I'd suggest a pursuit gear around 53x15,50x14. |
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Chrissylaa E, Gold
Joined: 17 Apr 2009 Posts: 3382 Location: On a hillside desolate.
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 5:34 pm Post subject: 72" |
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You could try 72 inches and try to beat 56 minutes 30 seconds for a 25 like Tony Doyle!! |
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Legs E, Gold

Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Posts: 3046 Location: Sierra Tango One Zero
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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The late Zak Carr did a mid-53 on 72" restricted gears (not fixed). _________________ "Legs is an agitator and a Internet stalker who regular breaks the rules of forum etiquette." - Jane Belleville |
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esafosfina E, Silver
Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 1712 Location: NSW, Australia
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Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:26 am Post subject: |
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Why bother? Just ride your road or TT bike and if you must restrict yourself (although I don't know why...) just don't change gear! Never used to use track bike on the road, for the same reason I never used a road bike on the track! For a lark I'd ride club 10s on the small ring, or ride a 25 on no bigger than 53x15... Still good for cadence work. Up to you I guess old mate...  _________________ "A couple of years ago I gave up drinking, smoking, and class As... it was the worst twenty minutes of my life!"
"I don't want white burgundy... I need white burgundy" |
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TBK Div 3 Pro

Joined: 28 Oct 2003 Posts: 3984 Location: fighting the demons in my head........
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Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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esafosfina wrote: |
Why bother? Just ride your road or TT bike and if you must restrict yourself (although I don't know why...) just don't change gear! Never used to use track bike on the road, for the same reason I never used a road bike on the track! For a lark I'd ride club 10s on the small ring, or ride a 25 on no bigger than 53x15... Still good for cadence work. Up to you I guess old mate...  |
Yea, but you broke the 10 record on a road bike with the only concession to aerodynamics being taking your bottle cage off?! _________________ A positive mental attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. |
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esafosfina E, Silver
Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 1712 Location: NSW, Australia
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Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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TBK wrote: |
esafosfina wrote: |
Why bother? Just ride your road or TT bike and if you must restrict yourself (although I don't know why...) just don't change gear! Never used to use track bike on the road, for the same reason I never used a road bike on the track! For a lark I'd ride club 10s on the small ring, or ride a 25 on no bigger than 53x15... Still good for cadence work. Up to you I guess old mate...  |
Yea, but you broke the 10 record on a road bike with the only concession to aerodynamics being taking your bottle cage off?! |
Guilty as charged!!! But I did have an aero helmet too!!! _________________ "A couple of years ago I gave up drinking, smoking, and class As... it was the worst twenty minutes of my life!"
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Davey C Div 2 Pro

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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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I've done a few '10's on my track bike this year and have found that a 90 is a fairly happy medium. I'm more of a spinner than a big gear masher however, so might have to take that into account! _________________ Have you got any Triple Sod? Yellow Bentines? What about some Clarky Cat? |
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Magnier E, Silver
Joined: 11 Nov 2008 Posts: 584 Location: Bristol
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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90!!!! For me i tried 96" and it was still too small. |
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Roy Gardiner T de F Winner

Joined: 14 Jul 2003 Posts: 21249 Location: London and Essex
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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Legs wrote: |
The late Zak Carr did a mid-53 on 72" restricted gears (not fixed). |
Wow. 132 cadence  _________________ "For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." H. L. Mencken
"Everything in war is simple, but the simplest thing is difficult." Carl Von Clausewitz |
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Davey C Div 2 Pro

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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:35 am Post subject: |
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Magnier wrote: |
90!!!! For me i tried 96" and it was still too small. |
Fairy muff! I am weak as a kitten when it comes to TTS so perhaps I'll gracefully withdraw from offering you any further advice..!  _________________ Have you got any Triple Sod? Yellow Bentines? What about some Clarky Cat? |
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Hans Datdodishes T de F Winner
Joined: 28 Feb 2002 Posts: 28370 Location: On the Superior Forum with the cool kids
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:38 am Post subject: |
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Roy Gardiner wrote: |
Legs wrote: |
The late Zak Carr did a mid-53 on 72" restricted gears (not fixed). |
Wow. 132 cadence  |
what does 23.02 for a 10 on 84" fixed work out at? |
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Steve McGinty Div 2 Pro
Joined: 13 Dec 2003 Posts: 4902 Location: Norther than the Northerners
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:16 am Post subject: |
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Hans Datdodishes wrote: |
Roy Gardiner wrote: |
Legs wrote: |
The late Zak Carr did a mid-53 on 72" restricted gears (not fixed). |
Wow. 132 cadence  |
what does 23.02 for a 10 on 84" fixed work out at? |
From memory around 105rpm _________________ ... |
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Roy Gardiner T de F Winner

Joined: 14 Jul 2003 Posts: 21249 Location: London and Essex
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:30 am Post subject: |
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Steve McGinty wrote: |
Hans Datdodishes wrote: |
Roy Gardiner wrote: |
Legs wrote: |
The late Zak Carr did a mid-53 on 72" restricted gears (not fixed). |
Wow. 132 cadence  |
what does 23.02 for a 10 on 84" fixed work out at? |
From memory around 105rpm |
Yup. 50x16 or 84.38" gives 103.8, but tyre size and whether on sprints would affect that.
http://www.roygardiner.com/gears.htm _________________ "For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." H. L. Mencken
"Everything in war is simple, but the simplest thing is difficult." Carl Von Clausewitz |
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