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 Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:37 pm Post subject: Seat height and knee injurys? |
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Does having your seat too high lead to knee injurys? The reason I ask is because the other day someone told me that my seat was about 1 inch too low and it should be highered, so I highered it. Then on Sunday I was out on my bike and after about 50 miles my knee just got a pain in it like I had either twisted it or I had tried to bend it in the wrong direction. It was still sore on Monday but was alright on Tuesday, but today I went out on my bike and the same thing happened again. I lowered the seat back to what it was originaly and that seemed to do the trick for a while but the pain started again. Do you think that I have just injured my knee and what happened today was just a reocurence of the injury from Sunday or do you think the seat was the problem?
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Who ever it was that told you to raise your saddle should have also advised you not to raise it the full inch in one go but to raise it over a period of time.
Hopefully your knee will get better with some rest. |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:15 pm Post subject: Re: Seat height and knee injurys? |
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| MrLoverman wrote: |
| Does having your seat too high lead to knee injurys? The reason I ask is because the other day someone told me that my seat was about 1 inch too low and it should be highered, so I highered it. Then on Sunday I was out on my bike and after about 50 miles my knee just got a pain in it like I had either twisted it or I had tried to bend it in the wrong direction. It was still sore on Monday but was alright on Tuesday, but today I went out on my bike and the same thing happened again. I lowered the seat back to what it was originaly and that seemed to do the trick for a while but the pain started again. Do you think that I have just injured my knee and what happened today was just a reocurence of the injury from Sunday or do you think the seat was the problem? |
If you pick your nose with a different finger to usual then, after a while, that finger will start to ache. There is a world of difference between an ache and an injury. |
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MrLoverman
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| Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:08 am Post subject: Re: Seat height and knee injurys? |
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| MrLoverman wrote: |
| Does having your seat too high lead to knee injurys? The reason I ask is because the other day someone told me that my seat was about 1 inch too low and it should be highered, so I highered it. Then on Sunday I was out on my bike and after about 50 miles my knee just got a pain in it like I had either twisted it or I had tried to bend it in the wrong direction. It was still sore on Monday but was alright on Tuesday, but today I went out on my bike and the same thing happened again. I lowered the seat back to what it was originaly and that seemed to do the trick for a while but the pain started again. Do you think that I have just injured my knee and what happened today was just a reocurence of the injury from Sunday or do you think the seat was the problem? |
If you pick your nose with a different finger to usual then, after a while, that finger will start to ache. There is a world of difference between an ache and an injury. |
No there is definately tissue damage, and it stays for a few days.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:36 am Post subject: Re: Seat height and knee injurys? |
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| Dogma Dave wrote: |
| MrLoverman wrote: |
| Does having your seat too high lead to knee injurys? The reason I ask is because the other day someone told me that my seat was about 1 inch too low and it should be highered, so I highered it. Then on Sunday I was out on my bike and after about 50 miles my knee just got a pain in it like I had either twisted it or I had tried to bend it in the wrong direction. It was still sore on Monday but was alright on Tuesday, but today I went out on my bike and the same thing happened again. I lowered the seat back to what it was originaly and that seemed to do the trick for a while but the pain started again. Do you think that I have just injured my knee and what happened today was just a reocurence of the injury from Sunday or do you think the seat was the problem? |
If you pick your nose with a different finger to usual then, after a while, that finger will start to ache. There is a world of difference between an ache and an injury. |
No there is definately tissue damage, and it stays for a few days. |
Try Kleenex for Men - in my experience they are a bit stronger. |
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| Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 2:48 pm Post subject: Re: Seat height and knee injurys? |
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| MrLoverman wrote: |
| Dogma Dave wrote: |
| MrLoverman wrote: |
| Does having your seat too high lead to knee injurys? The reason I ask is because the other day someone told me that my seat was about 1 inch too low and it should be highered, so I highered it. Then on Sunday I was out on my bike and after about 50 miles my knee just got a pain in it like I had either twisted it or I had tried to bend it in the wrong direction. It was still sore on Monday but was alright on Tuesday, but today I went out on my bike and the same thing happened again. I lowered the seat back to what it was originaly and that seemed to do the trick for a while but the pain started again. Do you think that I have just injured my knee and what happened today was just a reocurence of the injury from Sunday or do you think the seat was the problem? |
If you pick your nose with a different finger to usual then, after a while, that finger will start to ache. There is a world of difference between an ache and an injury. |
No there is definately tissue damage, and it stays for a few days. |
What do you mean by "tissue damage"?
Unfamiliar saddle height will lead to an RSI type feeling injury/strain an/or pain. A bit of a strain on the muscle insertion points, ligaments or tendons as they operate outside of their normal sphere or range of movement is about right.
Best to lower the height back to what it was, rest and RICE with ibuprofen for a few days and build it up again slowly after a week or so of rest.
Pushing through it won't work, it'll only make it worse potentially.
Make sure your saddle is in line with your top tube too (unless the top tube is bent of course).
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| Do you use a big gear? If you use a big gear all the time it will hurt your knees after a while. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:51 am Post subject: Re: Seat height and knee injurys? |
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| MrLoverman wrote: |
| Does having your seat too high lead to knee injurys? The reason I ask is because the other day someone told me that my seat was about 1 inch too low and it should be highered, so I highered it. Then on Sunday I was out on my bike and after about 50 miles my knee just got a pain in it like I had either twisted it or I had tried to bend it in the wrong direction. It was still sore on Monday but was alright on Tuesday, but today I went out on my bike and the same thing happened again. I lowered the seat back to what it was originaly and that seemed to do the trick for a while but the pain started again. Do you think that I have just injured my knee and what happened today was just a reocurence of the injury from Sunday or do you think the seat was the problem? |
How did they come up with this "about an 1 inch", to go the full inch in one go is way to much also this would affect youre saddle setback which would aslo need to adjusted and to add the height of your bars to match the extra 1" youve raised youre saddle.
As gary mentioned RICE for a few days, then start some strectching etc |
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Yes a saddle that is too high can cause knee pain, as can an abrubt change in position as above
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If you have a saddle too low it means you might have to raise it.
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| Generalising is generally dangerous as everyone is different and we can't see your knee, but generally pain in front of the knee is often helped by raising cadence and saddle, and pain behind the knee by dropping the saddle. |
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As others have mentioned it does sound like you have raised your saddle too quickly. I was once told to gradually raise mine by no more than 2-3mm at a time and to do at least 4-5 rides at that height before moving it up again. I know it's not an exact science as it depends on the individual but this certainly helped me.
The 1 inch change in height will hve changed the way you are using your muscles, if you adjust the height slowly, they will have time to adapt.
The height that you end up at is the most important thing though. When your pedal is at the bottom, you knee should still be slightly bent, you shouldn't have your leg straight at any point as this can cause injury.
It would defintely be worth getting a bike fit done to make sure you get the right height, even if you have to ge to that height slowly.
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As others have mentioned it does sound like you have raised your saddle too quickly. I was once told to gradually raise mine by no more than 2-3mm at a time and to do at least 4-5 rides at that height before moving it up again. I know it's not an exact science as it depends on the individual but this certainly helped me.
The 1 inch change in height will hve changed the way you are using your muscles, if you adjust the height slowly, they will have time to adapt.
The height that you end up at is the most important thing though. When your pedal is at the bottom, you knee should still be slightly bent, you shouldn't have your leg straight at any point as this can cause injury.
It would defintely be worth getting a bike fit done to make sure you get the right height, even if you have to ge to that height slowly. |
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Nice to see Tucker in the pink.
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On the 'other' forum he's taken to wearing burgundy tights, *CENSORED*! 
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