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zebedee
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 Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:46 am Post subject: effexor/venlafaxine |
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| has anyone on here found it to be weight neutral? took it before and it was fine,started again and am bombarded with scarey internet reports,is this just hysteria and its been beneficial for anyone on here? |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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both weight gain and weight loss are listed as rare (less than 1 in 1000) side effects on wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venlafaxine#Adverse_effects
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Bloody hell thats frightening. It's an anti-depressent but carries a possible suicide risk. Keep posting every couple of days so we know you are OK. 
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| Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:20 am Post subject: |
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| Bloody hell thats frightening. It's an anti-depressent but carries a possible suicide risk. Keep posting every couple of days so we know you are OK. |
A lot of anti-depressants do....the ones I was on after I had my kids made me so ill - i had every side effect possible for about a week then it all just settled down.
I felt like I was a drug addict going cold turkey or summat....hallucinations, vomitting, tremors, involuntary twitching, total loss of appetite, dry mouth but drooling at same time, couldn't keep my eyes open but couldn't sleep either, no concentration, palpations, totally on edge all the time & jumpy....but glad I stuck with them, cause once side effects had gone they helped me a lot.
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Best anti-depressant is a couple of spoonfuls of MTFU. Hope this helps
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| Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:40 am Post subject: |
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| Bloody hell thats frightening. It's an anti-depressent but carries a possible suicide risk. Keep posting every couple of days so we know you are OK. |
A lot of anti-depressants do....the ones I was on after I had my kids made me so ill - i had every side effect possible for about a week then it all just settled down.
I felt like I was a drug addict going cold turkey or summat....hallucinations, vomitting, tremors, involuntary twitching, total loss of appetite, dry mouth but drooling at same time, couldn't keep my eyes open but couldn't sleep either, no concentration, palpations, totally on edge all the time & jumpy....but glad I stuck with them, cause once side effects had gone they helped me a lot. |
Sounds like the old 'what doesn't kill you makes you stronger' cure! Glad you came through it anyhow. 
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zebedee
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| Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:48 am Post subject: |
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| Broken Bones wrote: |
| JONNO wrote: |
| Bloody hell thats frightening. It's an anti-depressent but carries a possible suicide risk. Keep posting every couple of days so we know you are OK. |
A lot of anti-depressants do....the ones I was on after I had my kids made me so ill - i had every side effect possible for about a week then it all just settled down.
I felt like I was a drug addict going cold turkey or summat....hallucinations, vomitting, tremors, involuntary twitching, total loss of appetite, dry mouth but drooling at same time, couldn't keep my eyes open but couldn't sleep either, no concentration, palpations, totally on edge all the time & jumpy....but glad I stuck with them, cause once side effects had gone they helped me a lot. |
thankgod for this post as im wondering today the reasons why im going thru this hell,i think i shall press the eject button and come back next week knowing what i am |
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Having seen some horrendii things caused by anti-depressants I think the best thing for them is the skip.
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zebedee
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| real depression is worse,believe me. |
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| zebedee wrote: |
| real depression is worse,believe me. |
Whilst not disagreeing with you at all, I do think BB has a very good point. I have no medical basis for this and am only going on my own exoeriences, but to me anti-depressants appear to often be prescribed by doctors looking for a quick solution and go no way in tackling the real causes. Therapy and/or counselling is often the real solution. Obviously I appreciate that some conditions like schizophrenia and bi-polar are caused by chemical inbalances and need *CENSORED* to combat them, but normal depression doesn't.
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| Lee wrote: |
| but normal depression doesn't. |
 Whats "Normal" Depression then Lee?
Having a bad day at work isn't, not wanting to get out of bed isn't, being dumped isn't........... thats just feeling a bit down. |
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Amazing level of expertise on here.
You should all look into the ST training opportunities in psychiatry. No one else wants them... |
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http://www.badscience.net/2008/02/619/#more-619
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| Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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| mattr wrote: |
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| but normal depression doesn't. |
Whats "Normal" Depression then Lee?
Having a bad day at work isn't, not wanting to get out of bed isn't, being dumped isn't........... thats just feeling a bit down. |
Sorry bad choice of words, (it is early, I am tired and slightly hungover!), there is obviously no such thing as normal, but I'm sure by the jist of your comment you get my meaning.
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| hbulstrode wrote: |
Amazing level of expertise on here.
You should all look into the ST training opportunities in psychiatry. No one else wants them... |
Based on my treatment idea, I could deal with 30 patients an hour. You'd coin it in if they were private as well
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mattr
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| Hans Datdodishes wrote: |
| hbulstrode wrote: |
Amazing level of expertise on here.
You should all look into the ST training opportunities in psychiatry. No one else wants them... |
Based on my treatment idea, I could deal with 30 patients an hour. You'd coin it in if they were private as well |
And the mortuary would probably have to deal with them fairly soon after. |
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mattr
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| Lee wrote: |
| but I'm sure by the jist of your comment you get my meaning. |
Yes, giving whingers at the surgery two asprin and telling them to come back if it doesn't clear up has turned into a course of anti-depressants and telling them to come back if they survive the side effects.
Those who really need them, still need them. |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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| zebedee wrote: |
| real depression is worse,believe me. |
As opposed to the imaginary kind?
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| Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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| mattr wrote: |
| Lee wrote: |
| but I'm sure by the jist of your comment you get my meaning. |
Yes, giving whingers at the surgery two asprin and telling them to come back if it doesn't clear up has turned into a course of anti-depressants and telling them to come back if they survive the side effects.
Those who really need them, still need them. |
Which I think was my point!
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| Billy Boy wrote: |
| zebedee wrote: |
| real depression is worse,believe me. |
As opposed to the imaginary kind? |
No, the misdiagnosed kind. |
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