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Davey D
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 Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 6:25 pm Post subject: Deep rim carbon, why |
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Hi there
maybe something for the discussion section but try here, I've been wondering what the benefit is to racing with deep rim (40/50) carbon wheels.
I've got an excellent pair of Dtswiss hand builts but got the chance to race on some deep rim carbons, not sure what the benefits will except for looking good. |
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They sound good...Reason Enough!!
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and they look 
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makesure you have Zipps, Dura ace, Corma or Boras etc..
if you have Lightweights people will think your a 4th cat from london
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makesure you have Zipps, Dura ace, Corma or Boras etc..
if you have Lightweights people will think your a 4th cat from london |
How did you know?
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makesure you have Dura ace, Corma or Boras etc..
if you have Lightweights or Zipps people will think your a 4th cat from london |
FIFY |
Oh Des and his Zipp hang up!
Will he ever get over this?
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On a related note just got hold of an old ZIPP rear wheel on Shimano 8 speed. I'd like to change the hub to 10 speed. Any idea of a good place to send it to be rebuilt?
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Riding my HED 60s the other week in that Coalville RR i was being blown all over the place.
I think this is why i didn't win. 
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| On a related note just got hold of an old ZIPP rear wheel on Shimano 8 speed. I'd like to change the hub to 10 speed. Any idea of a good place to send it to be rebuilt? |
If its Shimano 8 it will take a shimano 10spd cassette won't it? |
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| Terry Tibbs wrote: |
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| On a related note just got hold of an old ZIPP rear wheel on Shimano 8 speed. I'd like to change the hub to 10 speed. Any idea of a good place to send it to be rebuilt? |
If its Shimano 8 it will take a shimano 10spd cassette won't it? |
hang on I've just realised it's Campag 8 speed so will need a rebuild 
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Benefit-deep carbon wheels while be more aero than your DTs but not as much as you might think, they will be lighter but as they are Zipps they will be less reliable and more expensive to fix when you break them, which you will at some point. The DTs will be heavier but much stronger and more reliable. With the state of the roads up here chose where to use the Zipps carefully.
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Davey D
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Must admit I cant see any benefit with the state of the roads and the fact I'll never get away on my own unless its off the back,
Still riders with posh wheels yesturday, they must be mad using them on the roads round here at the moment. |
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| Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Des wrote: |
| Voodoo wrote: |
| Des wrote: |
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makesure you have Dura ace, Corma or Boras etc..
if you have Lightweights or Zipps people will think your a 4th cat from london |
FIFY |
Oh Des and his Zipp hang up!
Will he ever get over this? |
No - as there are better products out there for the (large amount of) money, which are robust, more reliable, perform better and honour their warrenties. |
Des is of course right. |
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| They sound good...Reason Enough!! |
Mine doesn't - only found out after I glued the tub on it's got a stray spoke nipple floating around inside... Took tub off, shook rim to remove spoke nipple, which then apparently glued itself to a bit of tub glue and stopped moving. Defied all efforts to find/remove it. Re-glued tub, half a mile down the road the bloody thing starts rattling again... 
Looks nice though. |
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Davey C
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Engineers - any further clue? I may be about to buy some normal wheels and want to know if I'm making a mistake when I already have deep sections?
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| Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 11:23 am Post subject: |
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| Engineers - any further clue? |
Clue to what?
They are faster on the flat, and on marginal gradients. (7/8% IIRC)
They cost a shyt load if you break them.
Braking is cack in the wet (CF is slippery).
Tubs are a hassle (relatively)
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Davey C
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| Engineers - any further clue? |
Clue to what?
They are faster on the flat, and on marginal gradients. (7/8% IIRC)
They cost a shyt load if you break them.
Braking is cack in the wet (CF is slippery).
Tubs are a hassle (relatively)
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