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stuart chatting
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 Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:15 pm Post subject: Can you lose too much weight |
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| I have lost about 1/2 a stone in the last month. Iam 6foot4 and now under13stone and wondered if I loose any more I will loose strength |
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Hans Datdodishes
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Yes. For every ounce loss from your weight now, based on your BMI, you will lose 9 watts from your maximum power output. There is a formula, but I can't remember it
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Hans Datdodishes wrote: |
| Yes. For every ounce loss from your weight now, based on your BMI, you will lose 9 watts from your maximum power output. There is a formula, but I can't remember it |
Don't have a tug before you race then, could be 20 watts if your a spurter..
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pete1001
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:53 pm Post subject: Re: Can you loose to much weight |
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| stuart chatting wrote: |
| I have lost about 1/2 a stone in the last month. Iam 6foot4 and now under13stone and wondered if I loose any more I will loose strength |
you need to be careful with that. Consistent weight loss means a constant calorie deficit- ergo you're not eating enough. You can't expect your body to keep performing on limited fuel. 6ft 4 and under 13 stone sounds low enough to me, for the advantages of a bit of weight loss you can run yourself way down and get all kinds of infections. I got some kind of glandular fever style yuk when I tried the same last year, 77kg at 6ft 3. Looked like s*** and had to skip an entire season 
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stuart chatting
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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| So do I drink more recovery drink ? Or eat more |
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pete1001
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it all depends on what you're doing. I'm no expert on it, by any means- all I'm saying is try not to get caught up in the "If I get down to 5% body fat then I'll be flying and win loads of races" syndrome. Don't starve yourself, essentially.
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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| stuart chatting wrote: |
| So do I drink more recovery drink ? Or eat more |
Dude - it DOESN'T matter - just boil it down to Calories and go from there. If anything I'd focus on burning off the fat - do you have scales that can give you a rough idea of this?
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Magnier
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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Id comment that half a stone in a month isnt majorly significant.
Are u loosing that every month or just this one?
How hard are u training? |
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stuart chatting
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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| I now live in Geneva so training is up hill a lot!!! So I need to be light but how light before it's too much . |
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Dogma Dave
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:11 pm Post subject: Re: Can you lose too much weight |
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| stuart chatting wrote: |
| I have lost about 1/2 a stone in the last month. Iam 6foot4 and now under13stone and wondered if I loose any more I will loose strength |
I would worry more about loose stools. |
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| Magnier wrote: |
Id comment that half a stone in a month isnt majorly significant.
Are u loosing that every month or just this one?
How hard are u training? |
Great Kelly impression there Magnier. 
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My problem is the opposite, i need to put weight on. My previous life was in horse racing where being light was essential. Eating habits from when i was 16 are hard to break & i'm now officially a MAMIL
Any ideas on gaining a little weight? Healthy would be preferable!
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| My problem is the opposite, i need to put weight on. My previous life was in horse racing where being light was essential. Eating habits from when i was 16 are hard to break & i'm now officially a MAMIL Any ideas on gaining a little weight? Healthy would be preferable! |
I don't suppose you need to be told what healthy food is!
I presume as a jockey(?) you are not too tall and very slim/skinny. Presume (2) you want to be less skinny for your more weight, not fatter -- but fatter is what you'll be if all you do is eat more. Presume (3) that as you're on here you ride a bike. So, heart, lungs & legs sorted. I suggest starting a strength-based upper body exercise programme plus a high-protein diet.
Just suggestions; I'm unqualified, I'd check with someone who is...!
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| Roy Gardiner wrote: |
I presume as a jockey(?) you are not too tall and very slim/skinny. Presume (2) you want to be less skinny for your more weight, not fatter -- but fatter is what you'll be if all you do is eat more. Presume (3) that as you're on here you ride a bike. So, heart, lungs & legs sorted. I suggest starting a strength-based upper body exercise programme plus a high-protein diet.
Just suggestions; I'm unqualified, I'd check with someone who is...! |
6' & 10st.5lbs now! left school at 16 to be a jockey was 5'4" & 6 stone then. That career choice didn't quite work out  but carried on riding the bloody things.
i think half the battle is getting into a habit of eating regularly, that might sound really obvious. I try to eat a more substantial lunch now as i was finding i didn't have enough energy for my bike sessions, tend to turbo in the evening & long rides on the w/e. Have also upped my protein as my diet didn't have enough.
Thanks Roy.
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My problem is the opposite, i need to put weight on. My previous life was in horse racing where being light was essential. Eating habits from when i was 16 are hard to break & i'm now officially a MAMIL
Any ideas on gaining a little weight? Healthy would be preferable! |
Eat Bread! lots of! |
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Just eat when you're hungry, drink when you're thirsty. Eat what your body asks for and consider the amount of energy you need before training and eat/drink accordingly. If you're exercising regular you don't need to *CENSORED* - that's just silly, unless you have a team of people who can monitor your state of health.
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There is an optimum intake ratio that differs a little between people but is about:60% carbs/30%protein and 10% fat.
Or summat like that.
Legro probably knows best.
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Magnier
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| Just eat when you're hungry, drink when you're thirsty. Eat what your body asks for and consider the amount of energy you need before training and eat/drink accordingly. If you're exercising regular you don't need to *CENSORED* - that's just silly, unless you have a team of people who can monitor your state of health. |
Really? Id say if ur hungry or thirsty its too late. Eat and drink little but regular. |
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| ali_clay wrote: |
| Just eat when you're hungry, drink when you're thirsty. Eat what your body asks for and consider the amount of energy you need before training and eat/drink accordingly. If you're exercising regular you don't need to *CENSORED* - that's just silly, unless you have a team of people who can monitor your state of health. |
Really? Id say if ur hungry or thirsty its too late. Eat and drink little but regular. |
Cake in large quantities is OK then. That's good news! |
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