Can you continue to support Cookson?

Killer C · E, Silver Joined: 18 Mar 2004 Posts: 982

If the following quote from Cookson is true can you continue to support him?

“Yes I’m confident in the current leadership of the UCI. It’s a difficult situation that we’re under at the moment but it’s important that the UCI remains united and the management committee have had some very interesting discussions and we’ve decided to do what we’ve done,” Cookson told Cyclingnews.

Personally, the answer is no. If I could avoid taking out BC membership I would, but then I couldn't ride BC races.

I first became a British Cycling Federation member in 1981. I have never felt this way before.

Big_n_daft · Cat 2 Groupie Joined: 10 Feb 2011 Posts: 66

I'm no fan but I think there will be more going on than has been said in public.

However I think it's about time he did a proper interview as a member of the UCI management committee rather than as a glib renta-quote when someone gets caught doping.

A Kimmage Walsh double act should make interesting viewing

John McC · Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:48 pm Post subject:

I think we need to be a bit more intelligent here. Although it would be nice to see McQuiad go, it is not realistic to expect a member of the UCI management cttee (or whatever it is called) to speak out publically against the UCI President whilst still remaining a member of that management cttee. My view is Brian would have to resign at the same time, which would prevent him from doing whatever he may be doing behind the scenes (which may be nothing, for all I know). So the question really ought to be, should Brian resign from his position in the UCI and call for McQuaid's resignation?

Interestingly I didn't realize until know McQuaid was bent as as rider too:

He was banned from entering the 1976 Olympics after being caught racing in South Africa, in contravention of the anti-apartheid sporting boycott. He had entered the race using a false name, but was identified after being photographed by a press photographer

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Tom Butcher · E, Silver Joined: 20 Aug 2003 Posts: 1575 Location: Derby

Well if he wants to back McQuaid then it's fair to judge him on that.

I think it would be possible for someone in Cookson's position to speak out in such a way that it left us in no doubt that he thought change at the top was needed if that was his view. If the UCI is an organisation where it's required that you toe the party line in order to hold any position of influence within it then perhaps that is part of the problem.

John McC · Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:39 pm Post subject:

Collective responsibility innit. Just like in the Cabinet, if you publically speak out against the PM, you must resign or be sacked after.
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Hans Datdodishes · Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:18 pm Post subject:

The whole BC system of lottery funding is built on a house of straw.
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DenHaag · Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:58 pm Post subject:

John McC · Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:04 pm Post subject:

Well known by you, does not equate to well known by me, or by anyone else for that matter.
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Chrissylaa · Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:59 am Post subject:

LocalBoy · E, Bronze Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 423

I used to think some posters on this forum knew a lot more about what is going on than I will ever know. If they do they have real issues with interpreting that information and in fact know as much as me; which is f*** all.

As I have posted a number of times the doping authorities are using cycling as it is a soft target. There may be an argument for McQuaid standing down; however I have seen nothing that suggests Cookson has behaved incorrectly at all.

On the contrary if he has all the facts to hand and has decided that McQuaid is doing/has done nothing wrong but is a victim of the circumstances that cheats have put the sport in, then I have to recognize his loyalty as a good thing. I'd much prefer that than your typical career sports administrator who is always playing a political game to position themselves for the next big job.

Tom Butcher · E, Silver Joined: 20 Aug 2003 Posts: 1575 Location: Derby

Well the argument is that publically backing McQuaid is wrong.

The UCI management committee is not the British cabinet and I don't see why that's a good analogy but if you want to stick with it there are plenty of examples of people resigning from cabinet on a point of principle - and plenty of people who just keep quiet and whose lack of overt support for someone or something speaks volumes. Cookson is quite vocal in his support for McQuaid so it's fair to judge him on that - whether you think he is right or wrong.

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Chrissylaa · Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:25 pm Post subject:

The Rumpo Kid · Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:29 pm Post subject:

Megman · Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:49 pm Post subject:

Pretty well known event, nice to see it got him banned from competing in the Olympics, but not administering it and making future decisions about what is right or wrong to do in the name of sport.

IIRC Kelly and one other went over but it was apparently McQuaids idea and organised by him.

Salsiccia · E, Gold Joined: 11 Sep 2007 Posts: 2316

Kelly was only 20 at the time, and the other rider was Kieron McQuaid. (thanks wikipedia for 'confirming' the details)

I thought the whole thing was pretty well-known. Widely documented at least.
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nettie biker · Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:52 pm Post subject:

As for McQuaid - I didn't know. So, how does that affect your interpretation of it being well known?

No doubt at least 6 opinions will appear in response to this and most of them will be based upon speculation rather than fact! Rolling Eyes

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nettie biker · Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:16 pm Post subject:

Anyway, how do the votes cast only produce 99%? What has happened to the missing 1%?
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Killer C · E, Silver Joined: 18 Mar 2004 Posts: 982

As I started this poll I feel I should clarify my reasoning:

1. The UCI's acceptance of money from Lance.
2. The UCI's tactic of tipping off suspected cheats that they were under suspicion.
3. The complete failure to address the doping issue in any serious way and pretend it was just a few rogues.
4. The failure of the UCI to adequately explain any of the above.
5. The setting up of the UCI investigation, failing to hand over documents and then disbanding, to me parallels, Lance's "I'll publish all my blood tests".
6. McQuaid behaving as if none of the above is of any concern to anyone other than the UCI - i.e. you and me.
7. The fact that McQuaid is now so discredited that he was heavily booed at the world CX presentation - can you ever recall that happening?

And yet, Cookson provides unequivocal support. I just don't get it.

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