Team Pursuit and Olympic Sprint Poll

Gary K · Last edited by Gary K on Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:10 pm; edited 3 times in total

Let's see if Willi's rationale holds up under scrutiny from statistics!

Gary K · Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:20 pm Post subject:

I posted no and I am one of the agiskoviner representatives and my real name is Gary Kristensen MBE BEng (Hons) Laughing

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Megman · Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:24 pm Post subject:

I posted no. I didn't and haven't ridden the nationals but I have ridden the divs TP a few times and even have a medal for it somewhere.

Billynobrakes · Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:24 pm Post subject:

Can we get this as a sticky and invite as many people as possible to vote, whatever your personal interest in track racing TP / TS.

Lets see what a balanced vote really looks like - personally I think that VR must represent a pretty accurate cross section of the cycling community.
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Billynobrakes · Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:25 pm Post subject:

Gary - just a thought, perhaps the question could be seen as a little bit leading in some eyes?
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Gary K · Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:27 pm Post subject:

I've had a think and this is the question that is being posed via the other thread, so it is representative of the arguement. You either do or you don't or don't care. Without the composite teams the competition would be so much fairer and within the spirit of competing.

I hear what people are saying about comparing yourselves to the best, but if the squad had been given an exhibiton ride, we'd all know how much faster they can go, and we'd be in the picture.

In my mind, the Glendene Squad should have collected their SECOND gold medal this year, after being beaten by a composite bunch of squad riders last year too. They are a proper club team who race and train together on a daily basis.

I bet they are not happy about it either. Anyone got a contact for them that comes on here?

Gary K · Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:28 pm Post subject:

KJ · T de F Winner Joined: 18 May 2005 Posts: 26400

I voted no and my name is Karen Jane Wyld. I've not ridden the Nationals but I have raced on the track and I have been a member of a BC Commission in the past.

Billynobrakes · Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:32 pm Post subject:

Simon Allen - Sheffield Phoenix CC voted - NO
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McDonalds · E, Silver Joined: 07 Jul 2005 Posts: 783

JMc, it really hurts me to ask you a favour ..... Embarassed

BUT....... as i was posting the fone went and I got destracted, in your role as VR police please can you check my vote. I should have voted NO. I would just say one thing though, Gary, I disagree with the wording of the question, I have no greater gripe with the WCPP or ODP forming a composite squad any more that I would any other composite collective, Im sure you understand why I have to point this out. I represent PCA and Tony Gibb.

George Gilbert · Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:58 pm Post subject:

Richard Kennedy · Div 3 Pro Joined: 04 Apr 2003 Posts: 3916

I've declined to vote given the wording of the question. It is not ONLY the ODP/WCPP that can form composites. That privelege is open to all, unfortunately only one non-national squad team took up that opportunity (Composite E in the team sprint, which including 2 veloriders members). Perhaps in future years, as more riders are aware of the rule change, we'll see far more riders who aren't in large teams taking the opportunity to ride these events as composites. From a personal point of view, I ride for a club with some decent riders but none of them hard track sprinters (sorry Martin Wink

), if I wished to stand even a remote chance of doing a good ride in the team sprint then I'd have to change club (which I have no intention of doing as my clubmates are also my friends) or form a composite.

martin smith · Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:59 pm Post subject:

T12OTT · Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:01 pm Post subject:

Adrian Trott - Voted No

But two comment:

If everyone is so against the composite teams why did any of the clubs enter teams? Why not just boycott the event, job done.

Secondly how will you then counter the "super teams" They already exist, isn't the Re-cycling development squad the U-23 National Sqaud, Glendene is this years ODP, Composite B (basicly Dolan/le Coq plus 1) looks like next years ODP. And SIS-Trek has 2/3rds (maybe all) of the Womens TP squad.

Whilst I don't agree with what has been done it is going to happen in someway 'cos these squads need/want to ride together in competition.

martin smith · Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:02 pm Post subject:

Gary K · Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:04 pm Post subject:

Gary K · Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:09 pm Post subject:

Please cast your vote on the other, better worded poll. This one is locked, but still remains, as there are some valid points on it.

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