BC Mission Statement

[Ingatestonian]

Bad day, Hans?

[Hans Datdodishes]

[mho]

Yet again a reasonable thread gets hyjacked by the Eastway brigade....

YAWN...

[Ingatestonian]

[Brian Cookson]

Michael - so you have no evidence other than second or third hand hearsay for your frequently repeated contention that BC is happy for a velodrome to be built but couldn't care less about losing Eastway. Despite the fact that I have personally countered this myth on numerous occasions you persist in repeating it. Why?

As for the rest of your posting, your doublespeak is positively Orwellian. As such, I simply can't match it, so forgive me if I don't go through it word by word.

The fair-minded readers of veloriders are well able to make up their minds based on our respective contributions.

Brian.

[david123]

Its wonderful seeing you with an outside interest Brian,famous authors and their influence on the language and as its orwellian tactics were discussing here would you mind if I digress a bit and remind you of the recent history of BC and the way they get a bit shy when people say"WHATS GOING ON".

I knew a few people who fought in Spain in 37,by the time I met them they were getting old and were often ill,no not himself he had changed sides before I turned up.Anyway I was playing with the other kids and these old people had no idea what we were doing or what the rhymes were about,anyway one said to the other"one day they will have a special word for this situation we now find ourselves in with regard to the communications and information barrier with the children"and with that he got up said goodbye to his friend saying"I hope you get mOrewellian".THE begining of the END
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[mho]

[david123]

Hi Moo,I speak for myself

You speak for every one

On wednesday 25 april on the"arent BC Wonderful"thread you helpfully pointed out "but the dock is coming see the royal dock thread for the latest".And at that point it was the latest thing around ,having been promised in February.

Ive been there on numerous occassions and never have I spotted what you refer to but then knowing otherwise for weeks precluded me from looking for something thats not there.

You then offer someone unnamed as target for their lobbying,the target ,a gold medal winning member of the recent near all conquering track team.Why would you want to subject a national hero whos only crime is being a national hero up for lobbying,after all he is trying to bring cycling to a wider audience and not shutting down the shop and having a bring and buy sale like some I may mention later.



On the subject of polls or petitions as is my expertise ,99% support at Herne Hill(the home of track racing) told me more than your poll ever could.
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[George Gilbert]

[Hans Datdodishes]

Leeds United will hold a board meeting at Elland Road on Monday morning to discuss the future of the club.
Leeds were all-but relegated to League One on Saturday after a 1-1 draw with Ipswich, leaving them three points adrift with only one game left.

The club's second relegation in three years could lead to serious financial implications.

Leeds sold Elland Road and their Thorp Arch training ground in November 2004 to avoid going into administration.

Meanwhile, chairman Ken Bates has given his backing to manager Dennis Wise, despite the expected drop into the third tier of English football.

Wise took over as boss from Kevin Blackwell in October but was unable to halt the club's dip in form.

Bates told the Yorkshire Post: "Dennis has done a much better job than many people realise.

"We were in a much worse position when Dennis came in than people know about.

"Some of the difficulties he inherited cannot be made public but there were real problems in the dressing room. The playing side was in complete disarray."

Leeds will be relegated on Sunday unless they score a hatful of goals to beat Derby and Hull City lose at home to Plymouth
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I'm a qualified coach.

[martin smith]

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Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

[Hans Datdodishes]

Chester boss Mark Wright and assistant Graham Barrow have left the club.
Wright parted company with Chester in August 2004 but returned for a second spell as manager in February 2006 and led them to League Two safety.

Barrow was appointed as Wright's number two in May 2006, Barrow had previously been in charge at the Deva Stadium on two previous occasions.

Youth team manager Simon Davies has been appointed caretaker manager for the final game of the season.

Wright had agreed a new two-year deal to remain in charge at the Deva Stadium back in 2006 but has now left the club
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I'm a qualified coach.

[nettie biker]

[mho]

[david123]

[George Gilbert]

[Plurien]

You have to differentiate between the internal musings within our sport administration and the need for a robust defence of its needs in public and officialdom.

It would be loads better if the users and the national governing body of their sport could be in agreemeent.

If the support such agreement implies doesn't come, that's no reason not to continue to with the action to secure a proper relocation and a full legacy which would improve upon what's been lost.

There are instances where the NGB has backed the developers proposals which users absolutely do not support. To not gain the backing of your NGB is one thing: To have it in opposition to users' interests is quite another. Remember that users never objected to the loss of Eastway. We didn't oppose the Games - why would we?! What we insist on is in our mission, so we can open in our dealings.

Many on the forum here won't believe that the NGB has very little cred for the way its dealt with the planners and officialdom. BC has some who are better at fronting it than others, but on the whole it's been put in a box for its failings. Users appreciate that it needs to retain relations with many of those who've put it there, but the blithe acceptance of some issues has left users in no doubt that they can't rely on it for protection of their interests.

The London Games was supposed to be all about the protection of sporting interests in Inner E London, as well as a catalyst for much-needed development. We had youth groups and clubs using the facility and a very inclusive community. The site was marketed pitifully badly for whatever reason but there's no question it was of local, regional and national importance for what it achieved. Cycling is hugely popular and not a minority sport.
- Take all this into account, and the users have a very strong story to tell which comes across well in the press. If BC isn't able to go with that, fair enough, but users do not feel it is their due to have to fight against the NGB to secure the relocation and replacement they need for their community to sustain.

As an example of the stuff which the wider world sees on this issue;-
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Eastway Users Group handed in a petition to the Mayor at City Hall on Weds 25th April. With 1893 signatures EUG calls upon the Mayor to use special planning powers to refer the plans under the London Olympic and Paralympics Act 2006.

EUG assembled one of the biggest petitions ever presented and had the sponsorship of Dee Doocey, an elected member of the London Assembly who is the chair of its Committee on Tourism, Culture, Media and Sport. The Assembly Session went on to question the Olympic Delivery Authority about its budget and its plans. The Assembly issued a statement* expressing its dissatisfaction with the ODA's answers on the budget.

The Assembly questioned the ODA panel, which included its chief executive, David Higgins, about the Velopark plans. It was admitted by the ODA that the arrangements to relocate the cycle facility had broken down.

Eastway Users welcome the ODA's commitment to have their new facility at Hog Hill in Hainault open this September and accept the apology that they have been without a faclity since November.

Major concerns centre upon the Olympic Park after the London Games, which sees cycle facilities reduced in size to a site of only 7 hectares instead of the 34ha that London's bid promised. David Higgins stated that the 34 hectares 'hasn't gone away' though he did concede that other things are in the space, so exactly what this means for cycling is unclear. Eastway riders were previously delighted by the 34ha Velopark plan which was announced two days before London's Olympic bid was inspected byu the IOC in 2005. That's the last plan they knew of until those of January 2007 which showed no mountaibike competition facility and the most uninspiring new road circuit anywhere in the country, squashed riught up against the A12 urban motorway. - Hardly an improvement!

Eastway Users Group will be meeting with the ODA and other development partners on 3rd May when it hopes to hear that the detailed and outline plans can be dramatically altered to allow a full legacy return for the Olympic sports of mountainbike, road-race and time-trial.

These Olympic disciplines thrived at Eastway. In 2006 there were six national champions aged under-14 to junior age who raced in its mountainbike series every week. National time-trial and road-race champions were also brought up on Eastway's road circuit. Many school and community groups used the facility for its traffic-free safety and wide open spaces. It really would be a pity to lose a New Eastway since the health benefits of cycling for fun and for sport are so great. An indoor velodrome will be part of the built legacy whatever happens, but the users want to see open-air recreation and sport make a return since it is so much more accessible and welcoming to the beginner as well as a much-needed replacement for what's been lost since Eastway closed nearly six months ago.

Michael Humphreys, chair of the Eastway Users Group comments;- "We've had a real struggle to keep our community in the plans at every turn. Obviously the Olympics always needed the land and we have been very willing to negotiate a relocation and a legacy return. We won planning conditions which protect our interests and secured us a relocation, but the plans also have to include a proper return for the people who were doing Olympic sport since long before London's Games. We're interested to see how the 34hectares can be brought back for us, but we're also becoming tired of delaying tactics and slippage. We've been without a facility for six months and, while we're still without anywhere for events we're also told that we won't be coming back either. It doesn't look good for a Games which said it was about serving more facilities for the E London communities and especially those bringing peope into sport. Let's hope the ODA can eventually get the right ending for this story."

* http://www.london.gov.uk/view_press_release_a.jsp?releaseid=11731

[KJ]

[KJ]

I worry about this continued use of the word mission.

[KJ]

How long have you been in cycling Plurien?