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| Do you think Indurains was doped..... |
| Without a doubt - he was so phick he would never know what they were pumping him with...... |
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| No - he was just a physical phenomenom bought on slowly by Echavarri (sp..) |
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martin smith
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I used to know a girl with a big pair of lungs, she would do a turn on the front, but never won a race.  |
she never came first then?
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Billy Boy
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| Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Howard Peel wrote: |
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| So still no conclusive proof then Howard? |
Well, my eyes tell me that Indurain was built like brick out-house compared to Merckx. If I were you I would pm Martin Smith pretty sharpish for a professional consultation!
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| Remind me which rider was convicted of doping again? |
I thought the issue was which rider benefited from the use of EPO... |
I remember seeing Indurain in 94 in the rider's village, and my biggest observation was how lean he was.
I also recall reading that for the Columbia world's he was 69kg. Pretty light for a guy of 6'2"...
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Rake
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I think it is easy to go with the flow and suggest that he must have d o p e d because everybody else was at the time, but I honestly don't think he did. I think he simply mastered playing to his strengths - cracking time triallist, okay in the mountains, and had a team of mountaineers to pull him through.
Had he been on the juice I think you may have seen a more flamboyant side to him - i.e. more attacking style. He didn't do this and the reason I don't think he did was because he was at his limit.
The team plans put in place by Ecavarri were the template for the Armstrong years - except that he went further by turning the screw as well coming onto the last climb and attacking the opposition. Indurain couldn't and didn't. |
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Fergus
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| Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:24 pm Post subject: Re: Was Indurain doped... |
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I would guess he must have doped, 7 grand tour wins in 5 years, plus a metamorphisis from a non climber in 1987-88. He put it down to weight loss at the time...but the Festina and Puerto stuff shows we can´t trust any of them |
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Rich Hill
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| Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:19 pm Post subject: Re: Was Indurain doped... |
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| Fergus wrote: |
| Rich Hill wrote: |
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I would guess he must have doped, 7 grand tour wins in 5 years, plus a metamorphisis from a non climber in 1987-88. He put it down to weight loss at the time...but the Festina and Puerto stuff shows we can´t trust any of them |
Fergus - you fool - READ THE TITLE - INDURAIN - NOT ARMSTRONG...
sorry for shouting - just tired and still got - sh 1 t to do...
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Tucker
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| Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:43 pm Post subject: Re: Was Indurain doped... |
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| Rich Hill wrote: |
| Fergus wrote: |
| Rich Hill wrote: |
| What do you think? |
I would guess he must have doped, 7 grand tour wins in 5 years, plus a metamorphisis from a non climber in 1987-88. He put it down to weight loss at the time...but the Festina and Puerto stuff shows we can´t trust any of them |
Fergus - you fool - READ THE TITLE - INDURAIN - NOT ARMSTRONG...
sorry for shouting - just tired and still got - sh 1 t to do... |
Um, Armstong did not win 7 GTs in 5 years. And I'm not sure about his climbing ability circa 1988, but I suspect he was still a triathlete then... |
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Fergus
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| Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:55 am Post subject: Re: Was Indurain doped... |
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| Rich Hill wrote: |
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| Rich Hill wrote: |
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I would guess he must have doped, 7 grand tour wins in 5 years, plus a metamorphisis from a non climber in 1987-88. He put it down to weight loss at the time...but the Festina and Puerto stuff shows we can´t trust any of them |
Fergus - you fool - READ THE TITLE - INDURAIN - NOT ARMSTRONG...
sorry for shouting - just tired and still got - sh 1 t to do... |
 I´m confused Rich...well...it applied to both of them eh. No probs, I feel like shouting sometimes too |
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Rich Hill
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| Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:48 am Post subject: Re: Was Indurain doped... |
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[quote="Fergus]
I´m confused Rich...well...it applied to both of them eh. No probs, I feel like shouting sometimes too[/quote]
No problem Fergus - I am more often than not in that state!
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